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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 07:59 PM
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Here's a wacked out scenario:
Ron Paul runs as an independent.

Bloomberg runs as an independent

and there are the dem and repuke candidates.

What a zoo that would be. I wonder what would happen.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:00 PM
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1. Bloomberg for the win.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:06 PM
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2. Would Bloomberg be more likely to attract Republican voters?
Frankly I like this idea. I am very much in favor of a multi-party system, where we have presidential races with 5 or 6 strong candidates. The winner could be elected with only 20% of the vote. That means 80% of the voters start out by not supporting that candidate. So he/she would have to work to gain the confidence of the public and bring up those approval ratings.

I know it sounds crazy but I am over these candidates who come into office thinking they have a mandate.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:09 PM
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5. It depends who the repuke candidate is: If it's the huckster, yeah
Bloomberg would get a lot of repuke votes. Romney? not so much. And I agree, it could be very healty.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:06 PM
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3. Paul and Bloomberg wouldn't win
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:08 PM
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4. You can't say that about Bloomberg...nobody knows him now...
but he's willing to spend over a billion to make sure that everyone soon does.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:18 PM
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14. That poll is of NY, which knows Bloomberg pretty well, yes? nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:10 PM
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8. sorry, polls a year out, don't mean a thing.
Bloomberg would have a war chest that dwarfed the other candidate.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:22 PM
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18. Sorry, I just stated my opinion, just like you stated yours.
NY already knows Bloomberg and isn't that into him. If the state that knows him best isn't that into him, no one else will be, despite the fact that he can pump money into the campaign like Ross Perot. The same Ross Perot who won not a single state.

There is a facination with 3rd party candidates on DU that the rest of the country doesn't share. If Nader, Perot, Wallace, Thurmond, T Roosevelt, etc couldn't do it, I highly doubt Bloomberg could.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:09 PM
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6. How many Independents can run at once?


..... Anyone know?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:11 PM
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9. there's no limit. n/t
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:13 PM
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11. There's no such thing as a limit on candidates, at least not nationally.
States have varying rules concerning how early you have to declare candidacy to be on the ballot. Some have a required number of signatures before you can run. And some states also say that a candidate who loses the primary cannot run in the general under a different party. (unfortunately, Connecticut is not one of those states, or we would have been rid of Holy Joe in 2006) :evilfrown:
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:09 PM
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7. Depends on who the "Dem" and "Repuke" candidates are.
If either one drives away the natural base of their party, the "indy" candidates are likely to benefit from it.

I don't care who the Pukes nominate, but this should be enough of a clue to wake up Democrats into taking this one VERY seriously.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:12 PM
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10. To further muddy up the waters...
don't forget that the Greens have Cynthia McKinney at this point.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:13 PM
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12. And there's also the Constitution party and god knows what else n/t
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:19 PM
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16. Yes, but all those minor parties are always there.
I doubt they would get any more votes than they ever do. Even Cynthia McKinney isn't exactly well known outside of Georgia, except among Liberals here at DU. Personally, I think she got ass-raped (metaphorically speaking) out of her congressional seat, and that never should have happened, but that doesn't mean she's ready to be President. I don't see her as much of a drain on the votes.

Bloomberg or Hagel could be more of a realistic threat. Mikey's got the cash, and Chuck's got ES&S.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:16 PM
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13. the repub candidate wins
i think Bloomberg will take a huge chunk from the Dems, and Paul takes a little amount from the Dems.

R-38; D-35; I-23; I-2; I-1; Other-1.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:20 PM
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17. it all depends on who the puke is. If it's Huckabee
and Clinton for the dems, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bloomberg won. If it's Romney, he might very well win. And the amount of money that Bloomberg would spend is a serious consideration. Plus, if he ran with someone like Hagel, he'd boost his odds even more- and take more repuke votes.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:18 PM
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15. These independents would like weaken the GOP vote.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 08:26 PM
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19. A perfect scenario
to dump the electoral college.
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