Bloomberg or Clinton?

[cali]

And before you vote, here's a bit about Bloomberg: He's socially liberal, supports stem cell research, abortion rights, GBLT rights- not sure about marriage for all. He's strongly pro-gun control. He seems a bit vague on Iraq. He believe is talking to Iran. He is strongly free trade. He believes in action against climate change.

[MadBadger]

1. Hes pro same sex marriage.

I need to find out his positions on Iraq.

[Skip Intro]

2. Nice, a repuke prick runs away with a poll against a Dem on Dem Undeground.

Says a lot.

[MadBadger]

4. Hes not a repuke

[Deja Q]

7. Self-del

:hide:

[Skip Intro]

20. Did he defeat a Dem for NYC mayor, as a Repuke?

thanks

[MadBadger]

21. Again, he was a lifelong democrat who ran as a republican, who has since disaffiliated..

from the republican party. He has been an independent for many months now.

Thanks.

[Skip Intro]

23. So he defected the party when it was optimally beneficial to him.

screw him

[MadBadger]

24. Or maybe hes one of the few politicians who is truly not a partisan.

[cali]

28. sure. that's why he was a life long dem, not an independent and just

happened to switch when it was most politically advantageous. He's got a bridge for you.

[ronnykmarshall]

70. His lips were attached to Bush's ass in 2004.

[cali]

25. Precisely. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

42. Better then being a DINO

Like the queen.

[EV_Ares]

32. Not anymore than Hillary anyway. eom.

[ronnykmarshall]

69. Only when it's convenient for the asshole

He didn't have the balls to run as a Democrat for mayor.

Fuck him.

[K Gardner]

Put him up against Edwards or Obama and you'll probably get a different result. n/t

[cali]

14. that goes without saying. n/t

[EV_Ares]

33. Yes you will which is why they show beating the republicans so much

more than Hillary.

[jenmito]

5. He's not even a Repub. anymore, is he? If so, he's a RIno, and he's not beholden

to lobbyists nor anyone else.

[cali]

13. and he's a model corporatist. n/t

[polichick]

6. Says a lot about the posters or our candidates?? nt

[cali]

31. Oh, it says a lot about poster voting. and not good. Most people voting in this

no jackshit about Bloomberg beyond his being the Mayor of NYC, but they're willing to vote for him over Clinton. That's irrational.

[EV_Ares]

35. Do you mean "know jackshit" or "no jackshit"? you might want to

use spellcheck once in a while.

I think this poll should be K&R don't you.

[cali]

66. when you have to stoop to pointing out

typos, you've reached the bottom level of petty.

[annie1]

8. Long life democrat, ran for Mayor on the republican ticket, then dropped the affil after elections

[cali]

9. In all fairness, he's not a repuke. he's an independent

having said that, no way would I vote for him. He's far more of a free trade devotee than Clinton, evidently. Not to mention that I find buying political office out of your own pocketbook, even more repugnant than raising it- including the some of Clinton's money is raised.

But I think the vote is more antipathy toward Clinton than anything else.

[TwilightZone]

26. Hey, that's nothing. Ron Paul nearly beat her a while back.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3688155

[MadBadger]

27. Now THAT is ridiculous.

[cali]

29. so is this. She has far more relevant experience than he has.

She's just as socially liberal. He'd be awful on trade. He's about as corporate as you can get.

[Renew Deal]

53. I beat Hillary Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3706483

[annie1]

55. lmao

[Kucinich4America]

36. You're right. It is kinda sad

Cynthia McKinney should have more votes. But I believe she's in the Green party now, so there are no Democrats in this poll.

[Yuugal]

43. was there a dem in there?

I don't know who mckinney is so I voted as I usually do: the most progressive choice possible....that was Bloomberg.

[Renew Deal]

52. He's no more republican than any member of the DLC

politically. Electorally, he was elected as a republican. Now he's an "independent." He's a "moderate" like the DLC flunkies.

[dugggy]

61. Depends on who is really more progressive?

ANd don't forget Bloomberg has been a democrat all of his life before
he ran for mayor.

[annie1]

3. Tough choice. Not sure. Don't know.

[rucky]

10. Which one is the Democrat?

kidding.

Clinton.

[onehandle]

11. Only one Democrat in this poll.

So guess.

[More Than A Feeling]

12. What's the difference?

[DesertRat]

15. Clinton of course. I only vote for the Democrat. n/t

[skipos]

16. Does Clinton beat anyone in DU polls? nt

[BootinUp]

17. Bloomberg for VP

just to keep him from giving the race to the repukes.

[maddiejoan]

18. Bloomberg can kiss my NYC fanny

I can't believe the results of this poll.

A Bloomberg Presidency would be a freakin' nightmare.

[Yuugal]

46. And?

The choice was between two nightmares and most of us chose the lesser of the evils.

[maddiejoan]

68. I don't consider Clinton to be evil

[TeamJordan23]

19. If Clinton and Huckabee are nominated, I honestly believe Bloomberg can win. nm

[jefferson_dem]

22. Any other Dem, the choice would be obvious. With Hillary...

not so sure.

[OHdem10]

30. I cannot vote fairly. His apprach to fiscal and economic issues

What is his position on Entitlement Programs. We are facing a Recession
What does he believe is the role of government. Does he believe in the
common good or does he believe in minimal government--small enough
to be flushed down the bath tub?? What is opinion of Entitlement
Programs. Does he believe they were wrong from the start and must
be gotten out of the hands of government or does he believe they
serve a good and useful purpose? How does he see Health care??
Does he believe our FreeTrade Policy is working well?? This tells
me a lot about how he views the plight of Middle Class.

I realize some like to call him an elitist. FDR was uber elistic
he was a "Blue Blood" However, He Did more to help the Poor amd
Working Class than any President. Our Elites of today have given
Elitism a bad name. I am willing to hear justr what kind of Elite
he is.

How would he propose to remedy the Immigration Problem??

What is his answer to all the loss of jobs and the fact we are
losing the Middle Class?

Foreign Policy? General Principles.

These are issues that affect people everyday of their life.

Too early for me to vote.

[ellisonz]

34. Write In: Howard Dean

[Kucinich4America]

38. I'll second that nomination!

[EV_Ares]

37. Kick this baby.

[Bumblebee]

40. So he splits the Dem vote and 4 more years of GOP in the WH? Great.

With Dems who are willing to do that, who needs Karl Rove?

[EV_Ares]

45. Evidently Clinton does with her Rovian tactics she uses, along with

Murdoch as a major donor, supporting Bush in his war efforts, etc. He is almost a moderate compared to her.

[Yuugal]

48. 4 more yrs of GOP and a chance for a progressive after

Beats 8 yrs of Hillary and 8 years of Jeb: definitely no progressive for 16 yrs. My oldest is 12 and can't wait 16 yrs for the US to get its head out of its ass. We need real change now.

[TwilightGardener]

39. Neck and neck. Interesting results.

[Joe the Revelator]

41. If Clinton has the nomination, and Bloomberg runs, he gets my vote.

Easy.

[annie1]

44. Here's bloomberg talking about the death penalty, i love this vid...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O3dIJfaqSHc

[sandnsea]

47. Bloomberg was 100% wrong on Iraq

He bought the line that 9/11 was connected to Saddam, which any thinking person knew wasn't true.

"Don't forget that the war started not very many blocks from here"

That's enough to reject him as far as I'm concerned.

[Renew Deal]

63. That's a vague remark and no worse than Hillary, Edwards, and the republicans.

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

65. It's one of several, and worse to boot

They never directly connected Iraq to 9/11 that way. Read up on Bloomberg and Iraq. He hasn't made many statements, but the ones he made at the beginning of the war are as wrong-headed as anything that came out of Bush.

[frogmarch]

49. I vote for Democrats. Clinton is a Democrat. - a damned good one. nt

[Zueda]

50. LOL...

If Bloomberg does this well against Hillary on DU just imagine what a possible general election would look like if Bloomberg can manage to capture nearly all independents and all the disenchanted republicans.

[Renew Deal]

54. This is Lou Dobbs POV

He feels like there's going to be an independent backlash this year. I have a feeling he knows that Bloomberg is running.

[Renew Deal]

51. I was at a Democratic club event tonight (in NY) where people said they'd vote for Bloomy over Hilly

Why? Because he's "on the ball."

[annie1]

56. how was the meeting? what are you guys up to?

[Renew Deal]

57. It was OK. We had dinner together.

Good turnout. Some people were there from the Obama campaign that I had never seen before. The mood is upbeat. I am in NY, so we're just waiting to see what's left after IA/NH/SC/etc.

[annie1]

58. cool! i'm in ny but went to a PA meetup ...

and might want to do stuff there so i can get out of the city on occasion. :). ny dems must be much fun. :).

[Renew Deal]

60. Oh, we're a blast.

I'm on LI so we're bitching about one local issue, power struggle, or injustice after another.

[BenDavid]

59. Here again is a poll that really people should think about. You

have blooms once a democrat switch to being a republican and now he is what an independent? Which way does he lean? to the right or to the left? Why would anyone support a candidate that left the democratic party? I doubt serious he will get into the race but if he does we will have another nader cause the "thinking" left democrats will vote for him and the repubican will walk right on in.....

[Renew Deal]

62. Word is that he's getting in the race if the candidates are divisive

And those candidates were Hillary and Guiliani, though I bet Romney would easily make that list. The rumor is that he'll stay out of it's Obama.

[Jennifer C]

64. Interesting poll results. nt

[Perry Logan]

67. The poll is introduced with an an effusive little blurb about Bloomberg. No bias there...