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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:15 PM
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Michelle Obama said "If Barack doesn't win Iowa, it is just a dream." Was she right?
Michelle may have been right, but I think Obama only has to beat Hillary.

I say Obama and Edwards will both do fine in the early primary states so long as they finish ahead of Hillary in Iowa, but if Hillary wins Iowa, she runs the table.

Do you agree with me or Michelle Obama's earlier statement?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:16 PM
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1. Oh dear ..
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:17 PM
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2. Well, thanks for regarding the rest of us as little lost sheep
Waiting for the decision of a handful of Iowans to make our life choices.

What utter rot.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:45 PM
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6. Who's regarding whom as a sheep?
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:26 PM
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17. .....
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:20 PM
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3. Of course I dont agree with MO. Things have changed. SHE probably wouldn't agree with it anymore.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 04:22 PM by wlucinda
Your assessment seems accurate to me. If Hillary wins Iowa it will be harder for the others, but Obama has much moola, and won't be going anywhere for a while.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:20 PM
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4. I don't think any of us will know anything for sure until Super Tuesday.
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:22 PM
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5. True Michelle, go ahead and hold off measuring the oval office for new drapes until after Iowa n/t
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:57 PM
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7. If Edwards or Obama wins Iowa, all three move forward. If Hillary wins Iowa, its over.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:40 PM
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8. I agree that's more or less correct.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:42 PM
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9. Edwards , Obama, And Kucinich Would Stay On Regardless
But ,imho, their candidacies would be over...
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:04 PM
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12. If Hillary wins Iowa, EVERYONE ELSE becomes the "second tier." They can stay, but their chances are
no longer measurably different from Kucinich's or Biden's.

Kucinich will ride this to the end because he's in the race to give his excellent platform a larger forum.

Biden has said that he'd drop out if he won a 5th place finish or a 4th place finish that wasn't a virtual tie with the 3rd place candidate.

I have to believe that Richardson and Dodd feel similarly.

I see Richardson particularly as getting out and making an endorsement at a time when his endorsement might still carry some weight. For example, if Gravel got out of the race and made an endorsment two months ago, it might have led to a bump in support for the candidate he endorsed, but if Gravel got out now and made an endorsement, it wouldn't even make the news. I see Richardson as avoding this fate.

I don't see Biden, Dodd, or Richardson in the race after January.

Between Edwards, Hillary, and Obama, I expect one to leave the race mid-February.

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 07:34 PM
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24. I read somewhere that the Dem party wants Richardson to run for Senator from NM
IIRC
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:42 PM
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10. worse than 2nd and Obama is done. nt.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:45 PM
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11. No its wayyy to close. there is too much money available
but If he does not win SC it is a dream
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:07 PM
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13. Did she actually say such a thing?
:shrug:
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:12 PM
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14. Yes.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/09/27/michelle-obama-if-barack-doesnt-win-iowa-its-just-a-dream/

Michelle Obama: 'If Barack doesn't win Iowa, it's just a dream'
9/27/07

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) — Michelle Obama told a crowd in eastern Iowa Wednesday night that if her husband, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, doesn't place first in the Hawkeye State then "it is just a dream."

The link is in the OP.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:17 PM
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15. Another cheap shot by Michelle Obama
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:30 PM by Tactical Progressive
playing the race card again. If you don't come out and vote for Barack, then Martin Luther King's "(I had a) dream" has failed.

What incredible pretentiousness using MKL that way.

The dream isn't about you, Michelle. It goes way beyond your little Barack's ill-timed run for the Presidency. It's a dream we'll all be fighting for, black and white and every other ethnicity, for the rest of our lives.

Trust me, how Barack does in Iowa has no bearing on that.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 04:02 PM
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16. You're kidding, right?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:33 PM
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19. I agree with you, Tactical Progressive..."dream" is code for MLK...
She's playing the race card.
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:41 PM
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22. MLK's dream included gays too, according to Coretta
As someone mentioned in one of the McClurkin threads, MLK wouldn't have approved of that fiasco. And then an Obama supporter said MLK wasn't sympathetic to gay rights, and we can't change history. You know that really hurt my feelings, and that individual never apologized or admitted he was wrong, when Coretta's comments on the subject were pointed out to him.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:31 PM
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18. ***A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes~~~When You're Fast Asleep***
Michelle might as well keep "dreaming".
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:37 PM
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21. MO made this comment some time back. At the moment, the three leaders...
will be in the race for some time to come, no matter what. Hillary has cash, Obama has cash, Edwards doesn't have an equal war chest, but he can always write a check to keep going.

Obama will be in this to the end of the primary. Will be nice to still have choices left for the later voting states. We didn't have this the last time. If you recall, after NH, the decision was set in concrete.

Would like to see some of the lower tier candidates stay in the race as long as possible.

At this time, the three leaders are neck and neck.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:44 PM
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23. I agree that the race is neck and neck and neck...
and I also believe that the 3 front runners will be in for a while...which makes it better for us in the long run...we might as well have as many choices possible. I don't know about the candidates who are lagging behind...but who knows one of them could be a spoiler...we shall all soon find out.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:34 PM
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20. Only if Hillary wins. nt
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