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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:44 PM Original message |
Here, in detail, is why John Edwards cannot win the nomination of the Democratic Party |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. All the more reason to vote for Dennis Kucinich imo |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Yes! the progressive policy institute is as progressive as |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't make me put you on ignore. n/t |
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petersjo02 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. What she said. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. sorry, I really find that a very impotent threat. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Edwards bashers just DO NOT get jokes. Why is that? n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Some things are only funny from a certain, specific mindset. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. There are worse things than not supporting Hillary Clinton. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Edwards supporters are so blinded by adulation that they've |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Please. Robotic. What a load of crap. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. my, my. So you didn't get that I was trying to make a point by ripping |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. You said I was robotic, and that's bullshit. n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. There is nothing "funny" about Edwards' limitation...... |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. How so? n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. How so, what? |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. When did I say that was funny? n/t |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. What? |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. What you said! |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hmmmm....thought provoking and some good points |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. Pretty convincing argument. Doesn't mean JRE supporters should stop supporting him, though. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Not saying they should. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I didn't mean to imply that you were. |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Excellent post! |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Well Cali- |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Denial doesn't win elections...... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Your agreement is of little concern. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It happens all the time |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. There's a whole of things that we haven't seen in this election..... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And as you well point out- |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. OK........ |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yeah, poor people everywhere this Christmas, are crossing their fingers. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. The point is to get elected to help those in need..... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. No, what you are talking about is why he can't be elected. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. He didn't have to take matching funds.......considering his 54 million dollar fortune.... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Yeah, you take all the money he has, every single cent- |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Actually, you are incorrect........ |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. There are also posts on Kos that show how |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
70. You are right, none. This is just the everyday constant bashing of |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. C.R.E.A.M. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. That's a pretty sobering analysis |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. J Edwards Supporters will stick with him. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm not trying t get anyone to change their votes. I don't even |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
31. Obsessed much. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. not at all. defensive much? n/t |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. Didn't Gore accept public financing in 2000? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Bush didn't accept primary matching fund...... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. So the answer to my question is yes |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The problem is that it shouldn't have even been close..... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. The problem is that this is not 2000. Things have changed |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. And Gore did badly relative to what he should have done...... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
37. You're right. We should just all quit this sham now and let the person with the most $$$ have |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. as the diarist makes clear, much as we all may dislike it, money is |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. Ergo...the second best result for Hillary in IA is JE winning. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
45. This was posted by a DEVOUT Obama supporter who has no knoledge of the internal finances of the |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. The article has plenty of data and quarterly reporting is |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. no not period |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. what other funding does a campaign have? If it's not reported it's |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. Have you ever heard of Harry Truman |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Yes. And why do you believe that he's germane to the |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Have you heard of the conglamoration of media post-truman? |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
54. Jimmy Carter. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. 1976 is not 2008. To say that a lot has changed, is an understatement. n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Carter ran at a time when they all accepted matching funds, but |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Its a chicken or the egg thing. Which comes first -rising poll numbers or campaign contributions |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. Response posted here: |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
63. "I'm going to make a prediction I can't possibly know to be true, and here is why" |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. Now you're not even writing your own hate posts? Hateful AND lazy is NO way to go through life! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Deleted message |
caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I still got to read what Cali said before it was deleted. and I didn't think it was bad enough to |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. And this is a reason not to vote for him... Why? (n/t) |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
71. and won't they be surprised when he does . . . n/t |
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