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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:22 PM
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Missouri- Clinton 49% -The Huckster 47% /The Huckster 47%- Obama 45%
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:23 PM
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1. I'm gonna vote for Hillary because its all about Missouri
:sarcasm:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:28 PM
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4. Unfortunately, Sir
That state is distressing typical of the nation as a whole on matters with a racial tinge. It is the most exemplary 'border state' in the geography of our civil war. Regrettable as it is, there are some deep things in the culture of our country that have not changed nearly so much as we would like to believe they have done.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:40 PM
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15. Are you suggesting that Clinton's marginally better result
is due to racism?

The poll's other results:

Hillary is 6 points ahead of Mr. 911, Obama is 5
Hillary is 10 points ahead of Romney, so is Obama.
She's 5 points up on McCain to Obama's 4.

Given the +/-4.3% MOE, those are ties. Even the Huckabee poll is close enough that it could be noise which gives Clinton the edge over Obama.

I think it's a pretty big stretch to say that the skin pigmentation of the two candidates have a bearing in these numbers.

If anything, the numbers suggest that the popularity of Clinton and Obama is close enough that a bigger consideration than the appeal of the candidates themselves is which of 'em would do a better job of running the GOTV drives in KC and St. Louis. That's what's going to be the difference between winning or losing in MO next November.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:46 PM
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16. Stating, Sir, Nor Suggesting
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:48 PM
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17. Always has been. "Flame Wars' there in the 1860's
were actually FLAME WARS.

I'm not surprised the state that gifted us with John Ashcroft would line up behind Hillary
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:47 AM
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18. What Similarity Do You Find Betwixt Those Two, Captain?
"Enquiring minds want to know!"
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:29 PM
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6. If Al Gore And John Kerry Had Won Missouri They Would Be President
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:26 PM
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2. not much good news out there, huh DSB? you had to do some searching to come up with this winner
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:27 PM
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3. Are Ohio and Missouri Irrelevant?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:31 PM
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7. Or the poll was just released.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:32 PM
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8. DSB didnt include Iowa or Wisconsin which show Obama with bigger leads than Clinton
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:34 PM
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9. WI Is A Blue State And IA Is Purple Almost Blue
And Ohio and Missouri have more Electoral College Votes than Iowa and Wisconsin put together...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:39 PM
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10. If '06 is any indication, Iowa is now blue.
Culver won the Governor's race by 10%, and the Iowa House shifted from 51/49 R to 54/46 D. Dems picked up a lot of seats in the county and local races, as well.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:40 PM
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11. I Didn't Post Minnesota Where HRC Has Beigger Leads Either
I didn't think the results were remarkable...

The fact that a D has a lead in MO and OH is remarkable...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:46 PM
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12. MO, particularly. OH has been shifting steadily to the left since '04.
Missouri would be a hell of a pickup. Missouri has historically been a pretty decent predictor of voter intent, so if we're doing well in MO, some other unexpected states could be in play.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:46 PM
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13. yes you did
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:28 PM
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5. Taking the MOE into consideration, Clinton and Obama are the same in this poll.
Margin of error = 4.3% so any difference less than 4.3% is an "=" -- it does not indicate a difference in preference in the population from which the sample was drawn.

Clinton (49%) > Guiliani (43%)
Clinton (51%) > Romney (41%)
Clinton (49%) = Huckabee (47%)
Clinton (50%) = McCain (46%)


Obama (47%) > Guiliani (42%)
Obama (49%) > Romney (39%)
Obama (45%) = Huckabee (47%)
Obama (47%) = McCain (44%)

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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:50 PM
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14. that's all within the margin
I'd suspect Huckabee would match up well with clinton simply because of that "who would you rather have a beer with?" question that seemed to propel * against Gore and Kerry. Huckabee and Obama still need to develop name recognition in some of these non early primary states.
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