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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:54 PM
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Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’
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Obama: History’s verdict on Bush will ‘not be kind’
By Klaus Marre | Posted: 12/18/07 2:06 PM
December 18, 2007


Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Tuesday blasted President Bush’s foreign policy record, saying that “his judgments will be subject to the harsh light of history, and the verdict will not be kind.”

But Obama also criticized his main opponents for the Democratic nomination for helping start the Iraq war.

“It’s easy for us to lay all of the problems of the world at George Bush’s doorstep,” Obama said in Des Moines, Iowa.

“George Bush did not take us to war alone,” the Illinois senator stated, noting that Congress authorized the use of force.

Obama indicated that his opposition to the war gives him an edge in a general election matchup.

“My opponent won’t be able to say that I ever supported the war in Iraq, or that I don’t support a clear timetable to bring our troops home,” Obama said, taking a swipe at Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.). “He won’t be able to say that I voted to use our troops in Iraq to counter Iran, or that I support the Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to leaders we don’t like.”

Obama reiterated his pledge to personally talk to Iran about its choices.

“We need a president who is willing to talk to all nations — friend and foe,” Obama said. “Not talking doesn’t make us look tough, it makes us look arrogant.”

The Illinois senator pledged to listen to all of his advisers and said that there would not be an “ideological or loyalty test” in his administration.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:55 PM
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1. There ya go, that's my guy!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:06 PM
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2. Good speech
but I think this still suggests a soft landing for the Thief in Chief, not as blindly permissive as the Clintons perhaps, but no hint of reality. The privilege of office is TODAY far established as the right to commit all crime and treason with absolute impunity(that the successor protects his authority by granting legitimacy). Law and truth lie gutted in the primacy of this attitude. We start out on this softness we campaign with another hand behind behind our back all throughout our plans and strategies.

This was a good political speech though, by the way and separates from both Hillary and Edwards. Good points and effective. I keep trying to raise issue concerns because I think we are headed for a miserable outcome even if we win depending on the clouded perceptions and muted agendas of the candidate. The misery factor is highest with Hillary and at best uncertain with Obama despite his gratuitous, honest tendencies to take the Clintons roadkill place with confident, mistaken rationales. Would they make wonderful presidents? If the RW voluntrarily were to retreat into their caves and surrender their loot, hand over their crimnals, of course. One could almost dare to forget it ever happened. If the world was not such as it is in the time it is now, absolutely.
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