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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:10 PM
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Some of the other trash posted at Hillaryis44.org
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 04:11 PM by Kerry2008
These people are absolutely disgusting and vile.

This has NOTHING to do with Hillary Clinton. Nor the vast majority of her good and decent supporters.

I respect and admire her. I respect the credible criticism her supporters give on this board. But this small group of people in the His44 crowd really have nothing better to do than demolish and beat up on our own parties candidates. What happened to lifting and bringing our candidate's up?

Hillaryis44.org really shows that SOME Democrats have learned Karl Rove tactics down to the name calling, distortions, lying, and smearing of opponents.

Heres some examples of the bullshit they spread:

This election cycle John Edwards is running as the Naderite wing of a Naderite party - NOT a Democrat. Edwards, in his newest advertisment states

“And we can say as long as we get Democrats in, everything is going to be OK. It’s a LIE. It is not the truth!”

Edwards lately has been battered by Dennis Kucinich who continues to highlight the non-Democratic, non-Progressive Edwards voting record in the Senate. Edwards was a DINO in the Senate. Edwards is a PINO now that he is outside the Senate. Edwards is NOT running as a Democrat.

Likewise, earlier this year Obama was running as a tentative Naderite. Now Obama has crossed over, in imitation of his mentor Joe Lieberman, and is running as the representative of the Ripublican wing of the Chicago Democratic Party.


Will Big Bloggers call on Edwards to give up because 59% of Americans have a viability question about the inexperienced? Will Big Bloggers call on Obama to give up for the same inexperience concern? For that matter will Big Bloggers call on Obama to give up because he illegally purchased then illegally snorted cocaine and 58% of Americans have a concern about that?


“The bulldozer can’t be kissed into submission.”

Americans need a leader. Democrats need a fighter. Obama promises reforms without results.

Obama Is Never There When You Need Him.
Obama Won’t Be There When We Need Him.


Obama’s mentor in the U.S. Senate is Joe Lieberman. Obama has learned a great deal from Lieberman. Obama has now decided to attack Democrats with the same lack of judgement and intellect and qualification and honesty as Joe Lieberman attacks Democrats and their plans to end the Iraq War.


When it came time to defend the defenseless or protect and enrich the powerful. Obama made a decision. He protected his powerful friends and provided them with even more government money. Same old Chicago politics. The poor shivered in cold tenements. Obama bought a new house. Now he wants a bigger White House to entertain his Chicago friends.

The shivering poor will remember the missing state senator.


It is of course a much nicer world when we think race no longer matters in the selection of our leaders. But race matters. In the past century until now (1900-2007), the last 107 years, we have had only 2 African-American governors elected and only 2 3 African-American Senators elected. African-American leaders, indeed most African-Americans understand this as a fact of life.

The Sally Quinns can go back to their martini shakers and ignore reality in their heavily segregated Washington, D.C. But thinking Americans know the long history of racism has not, like Quinn’s martinis, been shaken off yet.


His44 believes race matters when selecting our leaders? His44 believes Obama really see's Joe Lieberman as a mentor? His44 really thinks John Edwards isn't a Democrat?

What will they make up next?

All filth above is credited to the slimeball nutjobs at Hillaryis44.








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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:12 PM
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1. why you better watch out, that scary "fierce" guy with the his44 avatar will get you!
;)
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:14 PM
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4. And? Lie about me? Distort me? Smear me? It's the only tactics they have. Karl Rove 101.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:18 PM
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8. well i didn't say they'd be sucessful at it
:hi:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:20 PM
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13. They won't. Throwing mud never works.
Especially when they spread lies.

If Hillary wins the nomination, it's no thanks to the His44 cult.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:13 PM
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2. "What will they make up next?"
Bill Richardson paid a "coyote" to sneak him into New Mexico to become an illegal alien governor.

Yup, I heards it on them internets.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:17 PM
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7. There actually is a place on the internets...
...where all that kind of stuff is:

http://wikiality.com/Somewhere

That's where all the stuff is, "somewhere" on the internets...(go and add your own stuff)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:13 PM
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3. Is it really neccessary to drag that shit in here?
I think the vast majority here are aware that that's an ugly little website.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:15 PM
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5. Yet some seem to defend it. And at least one or two sport His44 banners.
It's fair to post what some people on the internet are spreading.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:19 PM
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11. and they've got some ugly little fans posting shit here all the time!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:22 PM
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14. Really. Show us these many posts from Hillaryis44.
Should be easy if it happens all the time.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:38 PM
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21. you've got a star, why don't you search for it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:44 PM
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22. Or I could teach you a neat google trick
Put in whatever you want to search for in google, add site:www.democraticunderground.com.

For instance hillaryis44 site:www.democraticunderground.com can be copied and pasted into google.

This will allow you to search only DU.

You will notice that the Hillaryis44 site is almost always brought up by non Hillary supporters.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:57 PM
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25. ya learn something every day i guess;)
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:57 PM
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26. ya learn something every day i guess;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:18 PM
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31. ya learn something every...oh, never mind.
:-)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:16 PM
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6. Joe Lieberman was in fact Obama's mentor in the Senate.
Though that was more an orientation thing.

Why you continue to post this crap and give it a wider audience is beyond me.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:18 PM
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9. It's kind of like Fred Phelps "God Hates Fags" It's bullshit, but people HAVE to know it's there.
And yes, I'm comparing His44 to Westboro Baptist Church's "GodHatesFag" website.

;)
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:26 PM
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30. Oh please
Sure, fine Obama was tight with Joe. But both Joe and Hillary both ran with the DLC crowd and in my mind that is just as much a kiss of death.

I will support neither Hillary nor Obama.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:18 PM
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10. the site definitely imitates the netroots in style.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 04:19 PM by wyldwolf
From DU to KOS and all points in between, netrooters and readers are treated to a daily diet of "Republican lite," "corporate whore," and other such labels flung at who they determine are not "real" Democrats. All this is usually shrouded in skewed and revised history.

By the way, Lieberman was Obama's mentor. That is a fact. :)

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060508/cockburn
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:22 PM
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15. And? They're using it as a talking point against Obama.
And comparing KOS to His44 is fucking retarded.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:24 PM
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17. AND the netrooters use is as talking points against Clinton
:shrug:

Same tactics.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:20 PM
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12. I thought one thread about an unaffiliated web site was fair
Or maybe even a new one per day. You are pissed and you have reasons to be. But His44 isn't running for President. I don't want to feel like I need to "show good faith" affirming your anger toward a group of bloggers on multiple threads less I appear to be apathetic to your concern. Can't you keep a running tally of offenses on one thread instead? Like you said, this isn't about all Clinton supporters.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:24 PM
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16. It's not about the Clinton supporters at all.
It pisses me off though, that some of the people on OUR side are using the same tactics we bitch and moan about from the other side.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:26 PM
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19. That is always a sore point for me regardless of which supposed Democratic allies of mine
are the ones who use Rovian like tactics. I agree that it is upsetting.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:24 PM
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18. I wish you wouldn't give them any
free advertising. Judging from the rec's, people are digging what's being said at that site. :-(

But I do know why you're doing it.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:29 PM
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20. In the other His44 post I posted about the His44 advertisement, a His44 defender...
...couldn't defend the bullshit. So they did what they did best and BLAMED the advertisement on me and the Edwards supporters. Smearing and lying. It's what they do the best, I suppose.

Don't call out His44, DU.

Some posters, that are members of the cult, will go from their usual anti-Obama or anti-Edwards campaign to focus their efforts on you.

In-fucking-sane.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:53 PM
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23. I'm surprised Skinner lets that kind of shit on his site
His44 is full of racist right-wing hatemongering. I wonder why Hillary hasn't denounced them. (Actually, I don't wonder at all)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:53 PM
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24. you missed the racist code words
they have used describing obama...i think taylor marsh writes for them ,i have discovered some statements to an article that seems to be hers. i figure anyone who refuses to acknowledge who they are has to be hiding something...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:58 PM
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27. Um... this is true...
"Edwards lately has been battered by Dennis Kucinich who continues to highlight the non-Democratic, non-Progressive Edwards voting record in the Senate. Edwards was a DINO in the Senate. Edwards is a PINO now that he is outside the Senate. Edwards is NOT running as a Democrat."

So, how is that bullshit? I'll agree that last part is odd, because Edwards is running as a Democrat, but he really was a DINO in the Senate and pretends to be a populist now.

BTW, I'm not supporting Hillary. I just don't happen to think that statement was bullshit because it's true.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:28 AM
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33. John Edwards was not a DINO in the Senate
Anyone who thinks Edwards's Senate voting record was that of a DINO has an incredibly strict definition of what constitutes a "real" Democrat.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:02 PM
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28. opps i`m not sure if hillary is 44 actuially posted this
there is something odd about this....

but i`m standing behind my hillary is 44 racist code words.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 05:44 PM
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29. So first, the media and the president told us that we were not...
patriots if we were against the illegal war and now if we dont go along with certain democrats, whether they are right or WRONG, we are not democrats? This shit is getting out of hand, first I was hearing the brainwashed sheeple posting here and using the "your not a democrat propaganda" but now I guess its moving throughout the country. Does this mean we have lost more people to the herd or what!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:47 PM
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32. Kick so DU can see how low some will go in the nomination process n/t
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