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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:42 AM
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35 years experience takes us back to 1972. What was Hillary's pertinent experience in '72?
In '72 I built an awesome crane with my Erector Set. Does that make me a Structural Engineer? I made an egg blow up with my chemical set. Does that make me a Chemical Engineer? Within the last four years, I administered the Petty Cash box for two differnet businesses. Does that make me a Comptroller?

Can someone tell me how graduating from college makes one "experienced"? What did Hillary do 35 years ago that qualifies her (as she claims) as someone who should be elected PRESIDENT? What has she done in the meantime that allows her to claim "35 Years of Experience?".

That's her claim; "35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE". Experience at WHAT, pray tell?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:47 AM
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1. she was part of staff of House committee during former Pres. RIchard M. Nixon's impeachment
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 12:48 AM by AZDemDist6
of the House Judiciary Committee
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:49 AM
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2. Fastest thread ender ever.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:50 AM
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3. LOLOL
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:52 AM
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6. thank you, thank you very much! I'll be here all week and
don't forget to tip your waitresses!

:rofl:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:15 AM
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35. LOLOLOLOLOL
Where are you in NM...I went to military school in Roswell.

-P
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:54 AM
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8. Oh yeah? Well Nixon was never impeached, so she must have sucked at it!!!!
(Just saving someone else the trouble...)
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:55 AM
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11. Lots of people younger than I don't understand that Nixon WAS NOT IMPEACHED. n't
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:56 AM
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14. no, he resigned before they could Impeach him. n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:57 AM
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15. You mean she let him get away???? This is SERIES11!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:38 AM
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45. Stop you're killin me, stop already !! LMAO
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:54 AM
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10. So? n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:58 AM
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now you are being intentionally dense. She's worked in Government
and for her issues for 30+ years.

I'm not a Hillary supporter, nor do I plan to vote for her in the Primaries, but I will give her props for what she has seen and done in her life.

Maybe you should try and do the same eh?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:01 AM
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22. LOL. How many Govt. paychecks has she cashed in those 35 years?
Experience?

Next...?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:02 AM
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25. She was the only American woman to not have sex with Bill Clinton.
Surely that counts for something?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:07 AM
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29. It does, to be sure. But qualification to head the govt. of the most powerful, successful nation
in history? Methinks not.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:04 AM
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26. read the wiki article posted below. you are just being stubborn now
and I'm done.

do what you will, the woman has earned her stripes. She's got a hell of a lot more experience than a one term Senator from a State House who's barely dry behind the ears.

and once again, I'll say I don't support HRC in the primaries (I'm going either for Edwards or Biden) but she is tough and smart and knows the issues.

I'd rather have an old policy wonk over a pretty face and a good speech any day.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:21 AM
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39. Yeah..I'll give her credit for some experience...
over the past 35 years. Not sure exactly the specifics of that experience. I do know one thing...Biden was a U.S. Senator 35 years ago.

-P
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:33 PM
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52. No doubt...maybe she was channeling Joe?
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 11:34 PM by youthere
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:20 PM
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50. What side was she on?
This is a completely doe-eyed innocent question, I hear tell she was a "Goldwater girl", had she become a Democrat by this time?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:21 PM
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51. Saw that one coming.
Of all the possible questions to ask, this was an odd choice for someone looking to score points against her.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:50 AM
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4. Sorry about your crappy erector set. Hill was at the Bigs
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:52 AM
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5. And just how do you define "The Bigs"?
Junior Staffer on an impeachment committee?

Yeah, that's enough to sway my vote.

Next?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:54 AM
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9. oh yeah, you wouldn't learn anything about the Constitution, the halls of Power
or the Law there now, would ya?

:banghead:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:58 AM
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19. Bwahaahahaaahaa
Nice Try. 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. That's the claim she makes.

I know the Constitution.

Maybe I should run?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:57 AM
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17. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Oh you can't.......you are a Dodger fan
where fans show up during the 3rd inning and leave during the 6th



:rofl:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:05 AM
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27. Whoa. That's hitting below the belt.
I'm a season ticket holder who regularly drives over 200 miles round trip to see my boys play (I live in Big Bear Lake). No fair weather fan am I. We even go to 2 out of town games every year with other season ticket holders...

That's not the point.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:12 AM
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33. Oh well. Truth hurts, but I can't completely hate a baseball fan
Even a clueless one :toast:
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:58 AM
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18. I googled Hillary Clinton timeline -
Here's what I gots

http://online-study-guide.com/history/women-womens/hillary-rodham-clinton/timeline.html

The timeline does omit such important jobs as

1. Married to Attorney General of Arkansas
2. Married to Governor of Arkansas
3. Married to President of the United States

I admit I'm not a Hillary supporter though I'll vote for her in the general. I'd choose Biden, Richardson, Obama, Dodd and Edwards over her, but I think she'll win easily once the primaries start.

I did guffaw when I read the 35 years experience though.
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NOVA_Dem Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:09 AM
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31. Anybody from DC knows that low level staffers are nobodies.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:53 AM
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7. I guess they're counting the 6 years on the Board of Wal-Mart as Public Service
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:55 AM
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13. do some research on WalMart in those days and what Hillary pushed
when she was part of the Board.

things like Health care, Child Care, Continuing education for the workers.

WalMart was a different world when old Sam was alive. When he left she didn't stay long.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:57 AM
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16. and Worker's Rights, I'm sure...what, no worker's rights? NAFTA? oh, that's right.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:01 AM
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23. I don't know Hillary's stand on free trade, I know her HUSBAND supported it
but if you've ever been married, you know that one doesn't insure the other
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:06 AM
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28. she's not too clear on the issue, being that it was her husband's policy
She might arrange a Blue-Ribbon fact finding committee to look into it.
Maybe.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:55 AM
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12. I think this "experience" of Hillary's is blown completely out of proportion.
She was a lawyer in Little Rock. First lady of Arkansas for a umber of years; & the US First Lady.

Now jr. Senator from NY. I don't understand how that is "Presidential experience".

Just blowing things out of proportion.

She is the "least" qualified, except Obama, in my book.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:17 AM
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37. She wasn't JUST a lawyer in Little Rock
She was named twice by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 Most Influential Laywers in America. She served as Chair of the Legal Services Corporation (appointed by Jimmy Carter). She chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession.


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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:58 AM
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20. She has relevant experience in the public arena prior to her Senate career
As a lawyer, activist, and policy adviser to Bill Clinton.

That being said, I find the premise that Barack Obama or John Edwards lack experience to be flawed, as both have significant experience prior to their legislative careers as well. I think all have proven the necessary backgrounds to be effective at the position they seek. So it is their policy ideas and character that I will continue to judge them on as I move closer to my decision.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:59 AM
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21. from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
Law school
Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.<30> During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,<31> learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).<32><33> She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,<32> and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.<31> In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;<34><35> Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.<35>

In the late spring of 1971, she began dating Bill Clinton, who was also a law student at Yale. That summer, she interned on child custody cases<36> at the Oakland, California, law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein,<37><38> which was well-known for its support of constitutional rights, civil liberties, and radical causes;<38> two of its four partners were current or former communist party members.<38><39><40> Clinton canceled his summer plans to live with her in an apartment in Berkeley, California,<41> later writing, "I told her I'd have the rest of my life for my work and my ambition, but I loved her and I wanted to see if it could work out for us."<41> The romance did develop, and the couple continued living together in New Haven when they returned to law school.<39> The following summer, Rodham and Clinton campaigned in Texas for unsuccessful 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern.<42><43> She received a Juris Doctor degree from Yale in 1973,<8> having spent an extra year there in order to be with Clinton.<44> Clinton first proposed marriage to her following graduation, but she declined at the time.<44> She began a year of post-graduate study on children and medicine at the Yale Child Study Center.<45> Her first scholarly paper, "Children Under the Law", was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973<46> and became frequently cited in the field
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:02 AM
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24. and more from wiki
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:04 AM by wlucinda
"...A key decision
During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for Edelman's newly-founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts,<47> and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.<48> During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.<49><50> Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,<32> Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.<50> The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.<50>..."

"...Rodham joined the venerable Rose Law Firm, a bastion of Arkansan political and economic influence,<62> in February 1977,<63> specializing in patent infringement and intellectual property law,<30> while also working pro bono in child advocacy;<64> she rarely performed litigation work in court.<65>

Rodham co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.<30><66> In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana)<67> appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation,<68> and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981.<69> For much of that time<70> she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so.<71> During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million,<64> and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.<64>

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Rodham became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years (1979–1981, 1983–1992). Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year,<72> where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.<73>..."


And LOTS more at the original link. :)



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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:08 AM
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30. Oh gosh, please don't overload him with facts. Does...Not..Compute
Does..Not...Compute...Does..Not...Compute...

Does..Not...Compute...:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:21 AM
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38. What ya mean? I left out a lot of Arkansas, the entire WH years and her WHOLE senate career!.
I thought I was being gentle! ;)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:25 AM
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41. lol... yes.... but........See # 32 and you will understand
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:29 AM
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42. I knew what ya meant.....my ability to make a joke must be failing me tonight.
:)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:36 AM
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44. No....it has not failed you. I was just reinforcing the absurdity
:P
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:45 AM
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48. LOL. Good. Sometimes I really feel
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:48 AM by wlucinda
like i've fallen down the rabbit hole when I come here. :)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:18 PM
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49. Thanks for this, wlucinda.
This is what she should be stating, instead of just making the blanket statement that she is "the most qualified".

I still contend that we Dems have many qualified candidates running this time. We just need to make sure ONE of them is elected! ;)
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:11 AM
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32. Being married to Bill? n/t
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:14 AM
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34. Read the thread and learn
:dunce:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:16 AM
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36. I've read your posts.
:dunce:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:23 AM
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40. You have a long way until enlightenment.......baby steps
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:31 AM
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43. I don't need advice, but thanks. n/t
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:39 AM
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46. Yes...yes you do. Somehow you thought Hillary's only qualification
was that she was married to Bill. And as you can see from stated research, there is so much more


Enjoy
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:41 AM
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47. I was joke.
Sorry if you don't know one when you see it.
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