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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:49 PM
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Obama jabs Edwards on Senate record
CNN: Obama jabs Edwards on Senate record


Obama stepped up his criticism of Edwards Monday.

SPENCER, Iowa (CNN) — Barack Obama again took aim at Democratic presidential rival John Edwards Monday, telling an Iowa audience that comparing his record with the former North Carolina senator’s “will give you a sense of whether or not folks are real about fighting for” working men and women after winning the White House. Edwards has made “fighting lobbyists and special interests” a central theme of his campaign, and the two men have spent the past few days in a verbal back-and-forth over the issue.

On Monday, the Illinois senator said he had played a major role in changing federal regulations on congressional gifts, telling the crowd that when he arrived in Washington, there was “a mindset that said there’s nothing wrong with lobbyists scratching the backs of congressmen.”

“The reason now that I raise the issue of special interests is because everybody now in the campaign talks about how I am going to fight for you,” said Obama at a campaign stop in Spencer. “Like Sen. Edwards — who is a good guy – he’s been talking a lot about ‘I am going to fight the lobbyists and the special interests in Washington.’” “Well, the question you have to ask is, were you fighting for them when you were in the Senate? What did you do? Because I did something immediately upon arriving in the Senate, despite the fact that it wasn’t always a popular position to take.”...

In response to the Illinois senator’s remarks, the Edwards campaign sent reporters a transcript of remarks made by Obama strategist David Axelrod on CNN’s Crossfire in the spring of 2004, while he was an adviser to the then-senator. At the time, he said Edwards had “never taken a dime from lobbyists or PACs. He said, let's ban lobbyist money, so you can't give people a bill to pass in the day and a check at night. And that's how we're going to start changing the culture in Washington.”

Later Monday, Edwards himself responded to Obama. “But we do have a philosophical difference about this and I think it’s fair for caucus goers to know it. I mean I have never ever ever taken money from lobbyists or PACs – not just in this campaign, but ever," he said at a campaign event in Des Moines. Obama has accepted money from political action committees in the past, but has not during his presidential campaign.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/17/obama-jabs-edwards-on-senate-record/
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:51 PM
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1. Good news for Hilary suporters...
...let them go after each other instead of her for a while.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:57 PM
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4. Yeah, just lay back and watch her self-destruct. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:07 PM
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10. Right... because her two biggest threats are talking substance, not personal destruction..
?????????:think: :think: :think:
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:53 PM
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2. The hatred and vitriol that is being spewed in Iowa is troubling.
I guess I'll have to write in Nader.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:56 PM
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3. Some call it hatred and vitriol
Others call it politics.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:05 PM
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8. This is called "comparing records and policies"--I don't see any hatred or vitriol here.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:57 PM
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5. At least Edwards has a record to jab. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:14 PM
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11. And he's apologized for nearly every vote he made during his time in the Senate.
:rofl:
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 11:21 PM
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14. 2 of 100s is "nearly every"?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 11:32 PM
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15. Which 2 would those be...anything important?
;)
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:10 AM
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17. Once we establish that 2 out of 100s is "nearly every"
we can move on to your next claim.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 11:41 PM
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16. Longer than Obama's?
Did you forget that Obama spent eight years as a State Senator, was president of the Harvard Law Review, and was an effective communtiy organizer in south Chicago?

Edwards was a one-term Senator, just as Obama is now. During his one term, Edwards co-sponsored the resolution that got us into Iraq and voted 'yes' for the Patriot Act, among other 'accomplishments'.
Are you including Edwards' representation of the corporations involved in hedge funds, as well? That's a record to be proud of, all right, especially when one represents the 'working guy'. :eyes:

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:58 PM
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6. That was some spirited defense by Edwards of his Senate record
:freak:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:58 PM
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7. "we do have a philosophical difference "... and .."they've spent a few days
going back and forth OVER THE ISSUES". I hate to tell the HRC people, but maybe someone should.. this is what candidates are SUPPOSED to do. There is no attack here. Hillary is the one stuck in the mud.. no one else. Everyone seems to see that but Camp Hillary. But heh.. go Hill !! :nuke:
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red2blue Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:07 PM
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9. Did this happen today?

Seriously, how do you ATTACK someone's record when you are not even showing up for the important votes?

We all know that they have to miss some votes when they are campaigning. But this is over the top.

YOU WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT TO BRING CHANGE AND YOU REFUSE TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:20 PM
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12. On the day it "wasn't clear" if Obama would go to DC for the telecom bill?
Oh, my!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:26 PM
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13. That kind of headline eptomizes what's wrong with the MSM
"CNN: Obama jabs Edwards on Senate record"

Makes it sound like a high-school basketball game.

How about:
"Obama Criticizes Edwards on Senate Record"
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:14 AM
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18. Sounds like Obama's feeling the heat from Edwards in Iowa!
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