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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:17 PM
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Dodd's Filibuster as of 4:55 PM
Dodd's Anti-Spying Immunity Filibuster Fizzles, But He Fights On - UPDATED
By Ryan Singel December 17, 2007 | 4:55:57 PM Categories: NSA
Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Connecticut) promised to filibuster a bill that would have given amnesty to the telecoms that helped the government spy on Americans without getting court warrants.

But Dodd's threat proved empty did not materialize earlier today after Senate voted 75-16 for cloture on the introduction of the Intelligence committee bill, limiting debate on the bill to 30 hours. 60 votes would have been enough to stop any move to filibuster the bill.

UPDATE: A Dodd campaign spokesman writes in to say that Dodd plans to filibuster the bill, when and if, the Senate rejects his amendment to strip immunity from the bill.

Given that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada) laid the groundwork so that any amendment requires 60 votes, the immunity stripping is likely to fail.

After that Dodd would need to be given time to speak and then attempt to hold the floor. There are procedural maneuvers that could stop his filibuster, but THREAT LEVEL is waiting to learn more about which arcane Senate rules would be in effect.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/dodds-anti-spyi.html



They are still in the debate phase as I see it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:24 PM
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1. Reid up now. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:26 PM
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2. This is very confusing.. can someone explain in terms I can
understand what this means?

Is the bill DOOMED to go through?
Dodd can only filibuster for 30 hours?
What's the point if he can only filibuster for 30 hours?
Will the other Presidential type Senators show up to support him?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:31 PM
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5. NO, postponed till Jan.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:31 PM
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6. This is all being discussed
Check out the LIVE On-Air Filibuster (supporting Dodd) going on right now at www.theyoungturks.com or www.bravenewfilms.org (Bravenewfilms also has a link to leave a comment for Chris Dodd and various links on more information including how to contact your senators).

There have been multiple guests already (Ralph Nader and representatives from Dailykos, Openleft.com, the ACLU and right now, firedoglake) with more to come.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:32 PM
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8. Thanks !
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:32 PM
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9. Thanks, but watching it on CSPAN
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:37 PM
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11. OK, this Young Turks site is fantastic ! I love this guy..
I think I understand now ! YAY...:bounce:

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:50 PM
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16. Thanks
That's why I spread the word. It's funny, because sometimes people think I'm Cenk (or that I collect a paycheck from Air America which couldn't be further from the truth...I wish!).

The truth is, I just don't see many talk show hosts that are willing to say the things he does, despite the fact that we so desperately need them to be said. Well that, and the the fact that the show is really, really entertaining.

Help spread the word, we need MORE of these messages to reach more people!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:28 PM
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3. Sounds like they're going to wait until after the 1st of the year now
Think any more of them will grow a spine over the holidays?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:30 PM
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4. THANK GOD...
So much better than trying to push it through.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:31 PM
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7. One can only hope...
minds need to be changed on this....on the right side of the aisle.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:34 PM
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10. k
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:44 PM
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12. They will if we write and write and call.. especially
to Harry Reid and the Big Three.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:46 PM
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13. It's a done deal...
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 07:47 PM by 1corona4u
it's been tabled until January. Polichick said she called her senator today, and was told something was in the works. I said on the other board, that I thought they all had a plan, and that's why they didn't show up. They all knew what was going to happen.

So no one got hurt. ;-)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:46 PM
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14. Thank you Senator Dodd
:patriot:

i wish more people would look at him.

and off to the GP you go.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:47 PM
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15. You gotta give Reid some credit here too...
he was "in on it"...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:51 PM
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17. sure
but Dodd led this. and he's running as a 1% candidate for President. i prefer to throw the praise to him for his effort, and follow up with Reid for allowing it.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:28 PM
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18. It bears repeating--thank you Senator Dodd
Now all I need to know is where do I send him by thanks? I have been basically uncommitted as to whom will get my primary vote, but I think I just made up my mind!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:33 PM
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19. i'd say here
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 09:28 PM
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20. It IS sad
that the other senators running for president didn't show leadership on this issue...very sad.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:38 PM
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21. THEY DID.
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 10:40 PM by 1corona4u
Hillary, Obama, and Biden had all signed a letter, last week, asking Reid to bring this to the floor, THIS week. Having known that it would be on the floor, and that Dodd would be "leading" it, I think they all knew they were going to table it. Otherwise they would have been there.

Polichick said that she had called her senator today, and was told that "something is in the works". That just confirmed what I thought. They knew exactly what they were all doing. They KNEW it would be tabled.
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