Breaking Holy Crap...Lieberman to endorse McCain tomorrow

[Perky]

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who was on the national Democratic ticket in 2000, will cross the aisle to endorse Sen. John McCain tomorrow, according to Republican sources.

Full story: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7418.html

[Clintonista2]

1. I thought he would have endorsed Obama

since Obama endorsed him in '06. :shrug:

[goldcanyonaz]

17. No way would Joe endorse Obama, he's too much of a dove for Joe.

[ClarkUSA]

21. I thought he would have endorsed Hillary since she endorsed him in 2006 AND voted for IWR and K-L

Plus, they're both AIPAC acoloytes and Bill held a huge rally for Lieberman in 2006 where he gushed over Joementum like a schoolgirl.

Ah well, I guess Lieberman agress with the Des Moines Register -- Hillary would be his default choice, I'm sure: Neocons stick together.
That's why Hillary has Michael O'Hanlon and Lee Feinstein on her foreign policy team while Obama has Anthony Lake and Samantha Powers.

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[annie1]

30. Thank G-d for democrats he didn't! people need to stay as far away...

from Leiberman as possible.

[Clintonista2]

45. He didn't? Get your facts straight PLEASE!

Obama Endorses Lieberman
http://ex-donkey.mu.nu/archives/166079.php

Obama Endorses Lieberman for Senate
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446

Obama rallies state Democrats, throws support behind Lieberman
http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/

[annie1]

51. i mean thank goodness Leib. didn't endorse obama. either way...

thanks for the links. ewww.

[Clintonista2]

55. Ya I just realized that, I wrote another reply below

[CTyankee]

86. Oh, dear! I don't think I knew that during the campaign, as I had decamped to Rome in the

last few days...aargh!

Why didn't Obama know what we REAL Dems knew here in CT about that sumbitch Lieberman? The nerve of that guy getting Obama's endorsement and then 3rd partying it, gaming the system as Ned called it.

I just hope and pray that Obama is sorry for what he did. Those of us who tried so hard for Ned Lamont are gonna be a bit skeptical and will want some answers if Obama is our standard bearer in the General...

[CTLawGuy]

113. he endoresed Lieb in the primary NOT the general

NT.

[Clintonista2]

54. oops sorry I misinterpreted what you wrote

I thought you meant "thank god Obama didn't endorse lieberman"

[Zueda]

49. Now that takes the cake...

for the most Ignorant, moronic statement I have yet to ever see on DU.

[Clintonista2]

50. Did Obama endorse Lieberman or not?

Hint:

Obama Endorses Lieberman
http://ex-donkey.mu.nu/archives/166079.php

Obama Endorses Lieberman for Senate
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446

Obama rallies state Democrats, throws support behind Lieberman
http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/

[Zueda]

58. He did when Lieberman was a Dem but when he ran as CfL..

then Obama backed Lamont. Hillary stayed quite while her agents continued to support Lieberman.

[maddiejoan]

88. You have that backwards.

Hillary backed Lamont after the primary.

Obama stuck it out with Lieberman

[Nailzberg]

109. Nope, that's wrong, too.

Both HRC and BO supported Lieberman in primary and Lamont in general.

[maddiejoan]

111. I am getting conflicting reports on that

if you could provise me with a link on that?

I don't doubt you --but am having trouble finding Obama supporting Lamont.

[Nailzberg]

118. Here's a couple.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/27/ap/politics/mainD8L0MB280.shtml

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/08/post_50.html

http://hopefundamerica.com/thecandidates/index.php?pageid=MOsen

[CTyankee]

89. Oh, that's better...

not a lot, but a little bit. Still the question remains, why didn't Obama see what ordinary Dems like myself and others who were foot soldiers for Ned in our local towns could see? Or maybe do a little research before he made his endorsement? You know, like find out what us CT Dems had against Joe that we would back Ned? All I did was collect signatures and make phone calls. I was no political guru. I couldn't give Ned a lot of money (not that he needed my money). I just believed Ned and had become disenchanted with Joe.

[Renew Deal]

Why didn't he endorse Hillary for the same reason?

I'm sure you would have relished it.

[Clintonista2]

63. Unlike Obama, Hillary didn't endorse Lieberman

Check your facts, thanks.

[Renew Deal]

66. Yes she did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_primary%2C_Connecticut_United_States_Senate_election%2C_2006#For_Lieberman

[ellacott]

93. And Obama also supported Lamont after the primary

www.nedlamont.com/blog/1976/barack-obama-writes-emails

[Clintonista2]

98. LOL read what it says

Senators Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Mark Pryor, Frank Lautenberg, Evan Bayh, Tom Carper, Dick Durbin, Diane Feinstein, Ken Salazar, Ron Wyden and Ben Nelson all endorsed Lieberman in the primary. However, Senators Mark Pryor, Ken Salazar, Tom Carper, Barack Obama, and Ben Nelson were the only Democratic Senators who endorsed Lieberman's independent run.

Hillary Clinton pledged to support the nominee. Barack Obama endorsed Lieberman's run as an independent :rofl::rofl:

[ellacott]

120. That's not true according to Lamont's site

The November 7th election is right around the corner. Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign.

There was this article that says he endorsed Lamont:
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/65/23468

[ClarkUSA]

105. Bill campaigned for Lieberman at a huge rally. Watch the YouTube video of his gushing endorsement:

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rr_n6EL5MA

Bill describes Joementum to the crowd in 2006: "He's been a good Democrat, he's a good man and he'll do you proud."

[NMDemDist2]

2. crap. what an ass! can we kick him off his committees now??

bastard

:banghead:

[L0oniX]

80. Good question. Can he be kicked out of the democratic party?

He certainly should be kicked out.

[NMDemDist2]

84. he's already left the party, but he caucuses with us giving us the majority

argh......

:banghead:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

3. Wouldn't touch Politico with a ten foot pool. But, they are most likely fed these "exclusives" so no

reason to doubt the veracity, yet.

We shall see. MKJ

[Demeter]

4. He Crossed That Rubicon YEARS Ago

Probably even before he was nominated as Democratic Candidate for Vice President.

[CTyankee]

90. There were signs as far back as the Clarence Thomas nomination.

But at least he had been around Connecticut! He is practically Nowhere Man in our state nowadays. He deserted New Haven and his Orthodox congregation here and went to Stamford (which might as well be an extension of NYC). He used to go to diners to shake hands but I don't think he's done that in years. He took the Dems of CT for a ride, those fooolish enough to vote for him as an Indy, and left.

Thanks a bunch, Joe, you evil bastid...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Somehow I'm not surprised.

Joe loves his war and none of the Dems are down with it, even Hillary. So he's gotta go with one of the War Guys.

[fenriswolf]

6. how far right does a democrat need to go

before his peers tell him he needs to change party affiliation?

[Nay]

26. That's what I want to know. Can we throw Joe out of the Dem Party

now?

[TwilightGardener]

31. He's not a Democrat!!

[KaptBunnyPants]

116. The people already did, even if the country club won't.

nm

[goldcanyonaz]

29. He's an Independent now. He became a free agent last election.

[Nay]

100. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I guess I still have horrible flashbacks about him

being the Dem VP nominee...

[TwilightGardener]

7. Like this is going to influence anybody. Bwah!

[Inuca]

40. To the extent that these endorsments matter...

yes, I think it might. He DID win in CO, much as we would like to forget the fact. And CO is a state of lovely shade of blue. And on issues that are not related to Iraq, security, etc., he is OK.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

48. He didn't win in CO. He didn't even place.

MKJ

[Inuca]

78. Silly mistake

I meant of course Connecticut, not Colorado :-(

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

87. LOL, no harm, no foul. It was just a surprise to a Coloradan to see that post.

We may be a lot of things out here, but Lieberman's constituent base, we're not. :-) MKJ

[CTyankee]

91. Lucky you! Hi, Bleeding heart! How ya doin'?

We've got a nasty freezing rain situation here. Hubby is roasting a chicken, I'm in my sweats and trying to keep warm.

I just hate it when Joe pops back up on the radar screen. He is such an annoyance to me, mostly because I tried so hard for Ned and back then, so many Dems just didn't believe us when we argued for Ned. I hope they're satisfied now, but I think they know they've been snookered because they're vewy, vewy quiet!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

106. Hi and back atcha CTY. :-) We're finally thawing out here in in the

mile high.

Does Lamont have any opportunity to try again? I didn't know a lot, just that he articulated his positions well and he had clever ads.

IIRC, he made money from cable TV, as did many.

Stay warm! :toast: MKJ

[CTyankee]

123. Ned made money but also inherited money. His family was pretty political; he had an uncle who was a

radical leftist (Corliss Lamont).

I don't know if he plans another campaign for office. Apart from working on Ned's campaign, my link with the Lamonts was through their support for Planned Parenthood of CT where I worked as a Major Gifts Officer from 1999 to Dec., 2004. As major donors, Annie and Ned helped PPC set up their first house party in Greenwich (a house party in Greenwich is in a huge mansion with a fully tented outside area and fancy catered food -- even so, we made pretty good money there!). The Lamonts offered their house as the first one.

Unfortunately, PPC (because of the PP Federation rules) had to endorse Joe in the General and that cooled the relationship (I was retired from PPC by that time so I wasn't on hand for the particulars. Many of the staff at PPC supported Ned).

I hope Ned does run again, he is a good guy. I only knew him slightly and gathered signatures pre-primary and made calls in the Senate campaign, so I was a minor player. Calling was a tedious task but they needed callers so I trouped down to his hq a few times a week over the summer and early fall of 2006. Voting absentee ballot, I left for Rome a few days before the fall election, thereby missing lots of action. I could get the International Herald Tribune in the cities there but not in the littler Italian towns. I heard about our taking the Senate when I was in Siena and I danced in the Campo!

[jenmito]

8. Why are you surprised? MY only surprise is he's not endorsing Giuliani.

I guess he's too liberal for Lieberman.

[annie1]

36. Isn't lieberman pretty liberal socially? Giulaini is straight freak all around...

i would imagine Joe finds giuliani revolting.

[Inuca]

44. Yes, he is

And, relatively speaking so is Giuliani.

[jenmito]

47. Well, he's not big on the cheating on your wife thing...

which is why he was chosen as Gore's VP (to distance Gore from Bill). It's just that Giuliani is "Mr. 9/11." They ARE both liberal. I guess I should've said Giuliani's too immoral.

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

9. I can't wait

for his Zell Miller speech at the convention this summer.

[babylonsister]

10. I'm not surprised at all. nt

[havocmom]

11. Joe wants DOD SOOOOO bad

He will back any hack hawk who will cave when the plays are called by the real powers.

I used to have some grudging respect for McCain. Seems like such a LONG time ago. But, I knew when he got off so easy in the Keating Five Fiasco that some puppet-master would be controlling him when it was handy.

[goldcanyonaz]

12. Not all that surprising to me. Joe is a loose cannon, and a putz.

Perhaps he has delusions of grandeur in being given the VP nod with McCain.

[terisan]

13. If so, at least he has thrown away his endorsement. nt

[saltpoint]

14. "Yoo hoo, Mr. McCain -- I'm available for the veep nom!!"

[annie1]

33. lol

[HeraldSquare212]

38. What a loser - selling out everything just to be Veep! nt

[Union Thug]

15. What did anyone expect from him?

He's a warmongering, bush-ass kissing, conservative prick. What a surprise.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. He seems to have become a one-issue guy

and that issue is the Middle East.

[blm]

18. Bill Clinton on Larry King in 2006: Dems in Conn. lucky to be in win-win situation.

Yes - Connecticut Demsocrats had no wrong choice to make in 2006, right Bill?

[Mz Pip]

19. Who listens to Lieberman anymore?

Seriously, who cares what he thinks? He's got zero credibility anymore.

John McCain is old and tired and wrong about the war. Joe needs to retire before he makes himself look any more foolish.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[sniffa]

i'm shocked, just shocked

someone bring me my fainting couch.

[bicentennial_baby]

24. Do you have the vapors?

:o

[sniffa]

34. why yes i do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOpwye66pEk

[Nimrod2005]

20. The Clintons must be stunned!!!

[goldcanyonaz]

62. Why on earth would the Clintons be stunned by this?

[Nimrod2005]

103. Because HRC is Joe Jr.?

[flpoljunkie]

74. If Lieberman's endorsement of McCain in NH siphons Independent votes from Obama, this helps Hillary.

I would say the Clintons would be very pleased with this development. Both Hillary and Holy Joe have deep ties to the DLC.

This may possibly help McCain a bit in NH, but will hurt him with Republicans there and elsewhere.

[Perky]

76. ou might be right...but I suspect it is a marginal draw.

[flpoljunkie]

124. Lieberman is not a popular political figure in NH where he received only 9% of the vote in 2004.

[Kucinich4America]

22. Now now, let's not bash Senator Lieberman

He's a fine Democrat, and an excellent example of Leadership, just like all DLC'ers....





























(Do I even need to use this thing? -----------> :sarcasm: )

[last_texas_dem]

23. Bleh

Not too surprised; I don't trust Joementum at all. Oh well, maybe it will hurt McCain; can't help with Repug primary voters to be endorsed by a (sort of) Democrat. Then again, Joementum is every Repug's favorite "Democrat"...

[killbotfactory]

25. Why am I not surprised?

Can we kick him out of the party now?

[MonkeyFunk]

71. How do we kick him out?

he's not a Democrat - hasn't been since '06.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. Good

it's not like any of the Democrats wanted, or would even be helped, by his endorsement.

[annie1]

70. 2nd. I hope this is correct, that he backed Caine, cuz i'd hate for him to back Hil

[Occam Bandage]

28. Thanks, Connecticut. Nice one.

[CTyankee]

95. Don't blame all of us in CT! Some of us tried!

We just got bogged down in folks who thought Joe was their buddy. We're not hearing from them very much these days...

But truly, some good fightin' Dems were out there trying to can Lieberman, trust me...

[Cha]

32. Holy breaking crap...I

thought he would support hillary after all she's done for him..but mccain is also a likely choice.

[Salviati]

35. Who is the Connecticut for Lieberman Party endorsing though?

[phillyliberal]

82. who cares?

We already know hes a trader. What makes you think a Lieberman endorsement will have any impact on an election? Lieberman and McCain are both old news. Mccain doesn't stand a chance anyway... why is everyone making this such a big deal? Who cares. Liberman has no influence in the presidential election, in addition to the fact that he ruined a promising Gore presidency.

[CTyankee]

94. I don't think it exists any more. n/t

[Tejanocrat]

37. ... and now the Zellification is complete! Bwaa ha ha ha!

[sniffa]

56. has Zell Miller endorsed anyone yet?

that's the money shot.

[goldcanyonaz]

64. No shit,, now that's one scary man.

[sniffa]

75. Zell On Earth

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=127509&title=indecision-2004-zell-on-earth

[Happyhippychick]

39. Does McCain even want his endorsement?

[anitar1]

42. I read somewhere on DU that Holy Joe

was referred to by Obama as his "mentor".

[polichick]

43. Of course, Shoot-'em-up-Joe would sign on with Shoot-'em-up-John! nt

[sjdnb]

46. The leadership needs to finally strip his

Homeland Security chairmanship away from him, but they won't.

First he runs against a Dem as an Ind, and has done NOTHING as chair of HS/GO -
Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who chairs the Senate committee responsible for government oversight, says he has no plans to investigate Blackwater and other Iraq war contractors accused of potentially criminal wrongdoing. Roll Call reports
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/10/lieberman-has-no-plans-to_n_67825.html

"Democrats need to realize that George Bush is going to be their commander-in-chief for three more years, and to question his leadership is to give aid and comfort to the enemy."
http://ministryofhomelandsecurity.blogspot.com/2007/01/lieberman-snuggles-up-to-bush-again.html

Kyl-Lieberman Iran Amendment
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/kyllieberman_iran_amendment_passes_by_huge_margin.php

Bill Kristol, the editor of the Weekly Standard, recently told Fox News that Lieberman's campaign against Iran has made "it at least easier for the administration to consider" military action.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Lieberman_Iran_has_delcared_war_on_0702.html
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lieberman-iran-strike-should-be-considered-2007-06-10.html

[zabet]

52. ....

[proudmoddemo]

53. It's time to expell him from the party

Period. End of story.

[MonkeyFunk]

72. First

he's not a Democrat - hasn't been for well over a year now.

Second, hwo does the party "expel" somebody?

[druidity33]

121. tar and feathers?

boot kick through the double wide doors on the front steps?

i can think of a few ways to expel him...

;)

[calteacherguy]

57. It won't make a difference. McCain is dead in the water. nt

[goldcanyonaz]

59. Actually, he's not. He can easily be resuscitated come Super Tuesday.

[BlueStater]

67. We'll see

McCain is absolutely awful. The idea of him as president makes me want to puke and the fact that he probably disgusts me the least out of all the GOP candidates should tell you something about the wretchedness of the others.

[goldcanyonaz]

69. He's not that popular here in Arizona any longer.

[PaDem]

77. The kingmakes won't let him win

book it.

[BootinUp]

60. not a surprise to me. nt

[BlueStater]

61. Good. McCain can have him.

Now kick him the fuck out of our party.

[CTyankee]

92. Not a Dem any more, Bluestater! Doncha remember? Ned Lamont beat him in the Dem

primary and Joe "gamed the system" as Ned put it, and had his little Independent run in his back pocket. Miserable S.O.B.!

Don't get me started...

[Franc_Lee]

65. Well I didn't expect Lieberman to support Obama or Hillary that's for sure...

[Franc_Lee]

68. Huckabeee is gaining too much momentum, if they want to slow him down they have to move now!!!

[Strelnikov_]

73. Nearly blow up on his own ship, shot down, POW, skin cancer, wife cheatin

ending in divorce, second wife cheatin on him, smeared by schrubco in 2000 ending his best chance for CIC, publicly groped and frenched by chimp in 2004 to pander to base for '08 run, '08 run implodes due for not taking fascist enough stance on immigration.

And now . . .

Joementum

Guy can't catch a break.

[faithfulcitizen]

79. LOL. Nothing like a little Joementum to kill your campaign.

[democratsin08]

81. he is a turncoat

i doubt this is true

[thatsrightimirish]

83. How will this help him?

Most republicans remember Lieberman being on the democratic ticket in 2000. If this helps anyone it helps Clinton.

[cornermouse]

85. And this is a surprise?

I suspect the only reason Joe, himself, hasn't crossed the aisle and officially become a republican is because the republicans don't trust him and won't have him.

[riqster]

96. So all of the DLC, let's compromise-with-the-reeps types

...who pooh-pooh Kucinich and Biden for not being MOR enough, do you think this helps your case?

[Beelzebud]

97. Hell this is probably their idea of bipartisanship...

[riqster]

99. More like this:

[ribrepin]

119. Love the cartoon

The expressions on the donkey and elephant are perfection. The elephant is all shifty eyed and the donkey is clueless as he takes it up the ass.

Is this your own creation? If it is, it's really good.:applause:

[Desertrose]

101. Oh good lord.....is he bucking for another VP slot??

Just sad.....

[KoKo]

122. Sure sounds like it. The "Unity Party" of Lieberman/McCain

:rofl: What an opportunist he is....:puke:

[JerseygirlCT]

102. Not really surprising

He's been sucking up to McCain for years now.

[FlyingSquirrel]

104. DUDE chill out... he's a Repug now.

Just cause he hasn't changed his party affiliation yet means nothing. Get over it, he's unimportant to us anymore.

[momto3]

107. Unbelievable!!!!! eom

[Aviation Pro]

108. If there's a member of Conn's election board here....

...can you please just forge Asshole's signature on his party affiliation declaration, R of course, and be done with it?

::sarcasm::

[laureloak]

110. Ain't it nice that Obama supports Lieberman?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/

[Forkboy]

112. Ain't it nice that Hillary cares more about fake violence than real violence?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145659.html

[IndianaGreen]

114. Hillaristas always fail to note that Bill Clinton campaigned heavily for Lieberman

and that their "girl" Hillary would not even meet Ned Lamont in public.

[KaptBunnyPants]

115. I could have sworn I heard Bill Clinton say that Joe was a good Democrat.

It's nice that they get screwed over by their own lack of loyalty to the cause. Of course, it would have been nicer having Senator Lamont, but Bill said Lieberman was just as good, and who am I to doubt the former President?

[HughMoran]

117. Can we kick this hateful war-monger out of the party after the election next year

I hate a traitor even more than some of the Bushco cronies.