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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:29 PM
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Those 8 years of peace and prosperity were just hell I tell you!
Absolute hell!!!!!:D
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:32 PM
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1. If they had been all that....
GW Bush could not have undermined it so quickly.

History doesn't only go by who is in the White House. The seeds of all of the problems we've seen in the 00's were sown during those wonderful 90's.

Clinton was damn lucky his term ended when it did.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:34 PM
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2. So, you're a Republican, right? n/t
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:41 PM
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6. That's against the rules.
Shame on you.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:42 PM
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7. So you really love NAFTA and the telecom bill.
And of course, welfare reform did wonders - for the homeless shelter population.

Let's bring back the 90s - maybe this time around we can succeed in destroying SS and medicare, as well.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:43 PM
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8. Of course...I loved the 80's
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:45 PM
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12. Actually, they were sown under Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan.
Johnson, the Dem, for running up our debt. Nixon for opening up China,and destroying our healthcare system. Reagan for pretty much everything.

And if you immediately begin to spend like a drunken sailor, anyone can bankrupt anything, no matter how previously stable.

The planning for this administration began with Nixon's resignation. They looked at what defeated them: the Congress, the Court, and the media. They methodically set about making sure that could never happen again.

BUT YOU HAVE THE FLAMING BRASS BALLS TO BLAME THAT ON CLINTON? THEIR TARGET?

Boy, have I got a bridge to sell you. Because you'll buy anything.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:04 AM
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23. How damn far back would you like to go?
History is one long chain.

But the most immediate ramifications have to be looked for in close proximity.

Sure you can blame the Republicans for a lot of the problems -- and a majority of them. But Clinton did not do very much to correct the underlying erosion of the fundamentals while he was in office. On the contrary, by either supporting them and distracting from them, he was a big part of leading the nation down the primrose path.

Nixon opened up China. That was not a bad thing to do, in and of itself. But did Clinton ramming through MFN for China help matters much? I didn;t hear Clinton on the bully pulpit much, trying to stop corporations from shipping America's productivity over to China.

The whole swing in healthcare to "managed care" was a decades-long process. However, Clinton had eight years to at least improve it. Instead it got a whole hell of a lot worse in the 90's and he ignored it after screwing it up early in his term.

And the whole imbalance of trade has been greatly exacerbated by the "free trade" movement that Clinton championed.

If you want to talk about gullibility and brass balls, then denying the role Clinton had falls very much into that category.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:46 PM
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14. The prosperity of the '90s had a lot to do with the business cycle
and the dot.com bubble. Both would have happened under any president, but Clinton handled it well. His most important acts probably were increasing taxes on the rich and not spending all the tax money that came in at the peak.

Not even Clinton could have staved off the blow-out in the NASDAQ. The bubble there was just waiting to burst. People were flinging all kinds of money at companies that were no more than an idea and a couple of kids with a computer. All the money changers on Wall Street had to put in the news was COMPUTERS and INTERNET and money appeared magically. It was a classic bubble right up there with the Tulip Mania in what, 16th century, Europe.

The problem is that Greenspan kept warning about irrational exuberance and nobody listened to him. Lots of regular people lost money, and most of that ended up in the hands of the 2 kids, the promoters and the Wall Street creeps. As is usual, everyone was having too much fun talking about the end of the business cycle to get a good read on reality. Greed was once again good.

It was all a bunch of nonsense.

And no, I'm not a Republican, but a somewhat economically literate Democrat who reads some history.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:13 AM
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25. Clinton did well in certain respects
>>>>Clinton handled it well. His most important acts probably were increasing taxes on the rich and not spending all the tax money that came in at the peak.<<<

I don't disagree with that.

I also agree that the ups and downs of the business cycle were not caused by Clinton alone.

However, Clinton is responsible for a lot of the failure to recognize and deal with reality. He preferred to take the credit for the good times, without treally preparing for the bad times. He encouraged policies like neo-liberal "free trade" and the usurpation of the public sector by the "markets" and other Republican-like policies.

Most importantly, he helped to replace the corrective balance of liberalism and progressive economic policies with a brand of "feel-good" laissez faire uber-capitalism, in which regulation was replaced by the naive belief that "new Economy" corporations would always act in the best interests of the public.

(I'm not anti-business. However, Corporatism is destructive to true competitive free enterprise with a broad base.)



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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:41 AM
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28. I agree with you.
I simply don't believe that the uber free-market theory works, and I don't believe that any corporation is going to be really good for the public in today's climate. There simply aren't many good corporate citizens around. There are a bunch of economic entities that exist only to maximize short-term profit for the execs. Everything else be damned. I don't mind saying that I'm not exactly pro-business. I see business as a necessary evil that needs a good deal of regulation because it will take on an aggressive anti-social life of its own.

You used the word "naive" in your last full paragraph. That's the word that I think describes Bill Clinton's encounters with the business world. He really did not get what these people are actually about. Either that, or he really wanted to be loved by them, like he seemingly wanted to be loved by everyone all the time. That's not reality, but it is the sign of someone with some deep psychological scars, which Bill has up the wazoo. He'd believe any old crap that Bob Rubin or Gene Sperling (Hillary's advisor) could cook up. I don't like that Sperling is calling the shots with Hillary. If you didn't like the policies of the '90s, you won't like what Hillary would be doing in '00s as the need to sell treasuries necessitates a high interest rates while a collapsing consumer economy necessitates a low interest rate. We're seeing some of that now, and I think that it will only get worse.

I remember Clinton either in Bosnia or talking about it, saying that the internet was great 'cause all these people in this torn-up place could make money day trading U.S. stocks on the internet. And he looked serious. Either he could be played or he allowed himself to be played.

The thought of any of this happening again makes me ill.



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:36 PM
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3. Some around here just hated the 90's.
Must be Repugs.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:45 PM
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13. Or it could be that they were good progressives who didn't like seeing our party betray its ideals
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 11:46 PM by Ken Burch
And become, in terms of practical policies, virtually indistinguishable from the GOP.

There was NEVER an excuse for a DEMOCRATIC president to hardball the passage of corporate America's NAFTA.

There was NEVER an excuse for a DEMOCRATIC president to sign Rush Limbaugh's wet dream of a welfare bill.
AND to leave twenty-seven years of Republican lies about the "immorality" of the poor unchallenged.

There was NEVER an excuse for a DEMOCRATIC president to EXPAND the use of the death penalty.

There was NEVER an excuse for a DEMOCRATIC president to keep the Hemispheric Torture Academy(AKA, the School of the Americas)open.

There was NEVER an excuse for a DEMOCRATIC president to increase defense spending while cutting the pitiful remnants of social spending.

pale-green environmental policies and the weakest possible "prochoice" position (a position that accepted the Republican line that women seeking abortions SHOULD be stigmatized and supported parental violence-causing "parental notification" laws) don't come close to making up for the above.

What we're saying now, though, isn't that the Nineties were evil. What we ARE saying is that it can't be worth the effort of electing a Democratic president JUST to get back to the Nineties. I assume we would all agree that a Democratic president that isn't to the left of the last Clinton on all major issues simply wouldn't be worth having.

Nonetheless, it will be us progressives, not the DLC types, that go out and canvass hard for our ticket this fall.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:14 AM
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26. or, if not repugs,
maybe the families of the half a million Iraqi children that were killed under Clinton's sanctions.

Not sure why we don't refer to that as genocide, or why we don't hold him accountable for those deaths. We act like it never happened, even though his foreign policies were just as murderous as Bush's.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:38 PM
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4. but then that was Bill...
wasn't it...?

The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President’s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.

More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.

Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.

Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.

Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.

Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.

Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore’s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.

Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton’s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.

100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.

Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.

Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.

Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.

Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family’s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.

Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton’s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.

Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.

Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.

Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.

Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America’s national forests.

Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.

Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton’s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.

Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.

Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.

More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.

Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:40 PM
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5. OK.. here's the thing: Hillary is NOT Bill. Now you're saying she's running on HIS record?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:47 PM
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17. Doesn't have to. She benefits from the memory of prosperity.
Biden, however...well, we'll always have the Thomas/Hill hearings, won't we?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:54 AM
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30. You tend to be very personal and nasty in your remarks.. sorry that you're
so angry. Hope things get better for you :-)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:48 PM
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18. Nope--but since lots of people here seem to think she's responsible
for the 90's...why don't they include a lot of the good, instead of just piling on?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:43 PM
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9. I like moving forward, not pining and over romanticizing the past.
Thanks though.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:49 PM
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19. Ok, so you won't bring up NAFTA and the Welfare bill, right?
If you only want to look back when it's convenient, there's gonna be people pointing out that the good as well.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:00 AM
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22. You'll never see me bringing up those issues
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:43 PM
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10. It was a mixed bag, but certainly better than Bushland.
If they'd lessened the drug war arrests instead of increasing them, gone after Iran-contra criminals instead of ignoring them, and had some self control of libido...it would have been better.
Most probably would have had Gore to follow up, too.

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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:43 PM
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11. They were not heaven and not hell...but better than Bush by far!
However, consider the toll the 90s took on the Democratic Party. Under Clinton, he was able to keep his own power intact, however on every other level, during his administration Democrats lost.

Democrats lost majorities in the House and the Senate. Democrats lost governorships. Democrats lost in state legislatures. Worse still, Democrats lost the presidency after the Clinton years, largely because Gore had to distance himself from Bill's errant penis.

Think of it...all that peace and prosperity and what did we get as a party to show for it?

We got a party dedicated to triangulation and kissing republican arse during the next 7 years, that's what.

We are in a position that we can win back some of the losses that began during the 90s.

I think we need to look to another type of leader that can lead us into the future instead of mire us into the past.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:46 PM
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15. Consider the toll the 90's took on the country
The 90's were nothing but the 80's on steriods.

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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:47 PM
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16. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I sure thought Bill did a
heck of a job given all he was up against. He was smart enough intellectually and politically to use every tool in his arsenal to do good things for America/Americans and the World - even with a GOP majority.

But, you gotta give props to the GOP (tactically) - they are an 'all balls out' bunch. Heck, they called Inquiries, Investigations, and Impeachment hearings over phantom issues and a blue dress. The heck with whether it is bad for the country/world. And, to this day, they still seem to get the better of the Dems in Congress at every turn - even when poll after poll has shown the American people STRONGLY disagree with their policies and actions.

We were lied into a war that's costs in lives, limbs, and dollars would have been unthinkable during the Clinton years and seen corruption, fraud, lies, malfeasance, theft, incompetence, and economic injustice (corporate welfare, subsidies, no-bid contracts, etc.) -- and these guys are still getting off scot-free (or 'retiring' to lobbying firms/more lucrative jobs, with golden parachutes, more government dollars, reassigned, etc.)
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:55 PM
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20. If the internet wasn't developing Bill Clinton would have been no big deal...
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:37 AM
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27. I could just as easily argue
that if Bill Clinton hadn't been President, the Internet wouldn't have developed as quickly.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:58 PM
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21. And media consolidation was just heaven
alongside financial and securities deregulation- they were beauties, eh?

No chickens coming home to roost on those....
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:11 AM
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24. I just loved letting banks and brokerage houses get together again.
They've done such a good job together, just like they did in the 1920s.

Rolls eyes.

People as a whole don't change too much. One of the ways in which they don't change is to continue to believe that they do change.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:45 AM
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29. You can't go home again.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:46 AM
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31. They sure were hell for people on welfare
If you breed like a rabbit, the world is your oyster! If you need help and have no dependent children--fuck ya, go live on the streets.

That's the Clinton "welfare reform" for ya. He and his flip-flopping wife can shove it.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 02:17 AM
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32. NAFTA, Telecom reform, welfare reform, increased surveillance,
it wasn't bad, but we can do better and will do better with Edwards.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 03:42 AM
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33. You forgot a few things
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 03:45 AM by Prophet 451
Like:
- NAFTA,
- an expanding gap between rich and poor (which W has made a zillion times worse),
- "ClintonCare",
- the definition of "is" (yeah, the impeachment was bullshit but that wasn't his finest moment),
- The war on some drugs
- signed a bill outlawing gay marriage,
- expanded the number of federal crimes for which the death penalty can be used,
- refused to sign the International Land Mine Ban treaty,
- first president since Nixon not to raise the CAFE standards,
- Insisted that "sinks" (i.e. forests) be counted as part of the US emission reduction in the Kyoto Threaty, thus making a mockery of the whole process,
- Welfare "reform".

I liked Bill, Bill was a decent president (and a bazillion times better than Chimpy) but he was a very long way from perfect and may have been one of the most right-wing presidents the Democrats sent to the Whitehouse since desegragation.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 06:43 AM
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35. And you forgot a LOTTA things...
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:44 AM
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37. Missed the point
I'm not arguing that Bill wasn't a good president, he was. I'm just pointing out that he also made mistakes and was a long way from perfect.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 05:18 AM
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34. Peace????
I still remember protesting against dropping bombs on Kosavo....There was talk of genocide bla bla bla, but hom many civilians died from our bombs????
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:36 AM
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36. Incredble! Well documentened genocide is just blah...blah...blah..to you!
Pathetic that you would say that just because of your blind hatred of all things Clinton. Absolutely fucking pathetic. I don't think I've ever seen a more disgusting post.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:13 PM
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40. more people died
as a result of sanctions against Iraq than in the Kosovo "genocide".

Where does civil war start and genocide end?

Rwanda would have been a better place to intervene against genocide.


I also do not hate all things Clinton. I remember that he was laughed at for proposing a national health service and a national health card, 2 things I support. My biggest problems with Bill Clinton were NAFTA, welfare reform, and no cannabis decriminialization. I understand he was better than either Bush or Reagan, but that does not mean I cannot be critical of Bill Clinton.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:49 AM
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39. Between 429 and 528, according to Human Rights Watch.
Or, 1/16 the number that were massacred at Srebrenica alone.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:46 AM
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38. Don't worry 'bout the replies. Just like the Republicans,
Edited on Sun Dec-16-07 11:46 AM by Occam Bandage
people opposed to another Clinton Presidency (due to allegiance to another candidate) are honor-bound to find rationalizations to hate the '90s--or, at a very minimum, find ways to credit anyone but the Clintons for the positives they cannot spin away.
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