Even Ghouliani defended Obama admitting to past drug use...while Hillary's camp promotes the sleaze

[jefferson_dem]

Ghouliani --

“I respect his honesty in doing that,” Giuliani said of Obama speaking about his drug use. “I think that one of the things we need from our people who are running for office is not this pretense of perfection. And the reality is all of us that run for public office, whether its governor, legislator, mayor, president, we are all human beings. If we haven’t made mistakes don’t vote for us. Cause we got some big ones that are gonna happen in the future and we won’t know how to handle them.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/20/475471.aspx

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Hillary's Co-Chair --

"The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight ... and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use," said Shaheen, the husband of former N.H. governor Jeanne Shaheen, who is planning to run for the Senate next year. Billy Shaheen contrasted Obama's openness about his past drug use -- which Obama mentioned again at a recent campaign appearance in New Hampshire -- with the approach taken by George W. Bush in 1999 and 2000, when he ruled out questions about his behavior when he was "young and irresponsible."

Shaheen said Obama's candor on the subject would "open the door" to further questions. "It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/12/post_235.html

[sandnsea]

1. Just like they asked Bush

I hope this doesn't destroy Jeanne's Senate campaign at the same time. How stupid are they. And these are the people who had the audacity to criticize John Kerry's campaign. This kind of sleaze just does not work.

[Mojorabbit]

2. I sent an email to her campaign

website. THis really upsets me.

[Tom Rinaldo]

3. Ahem, Gouliani is not exactly anyone's best character witness. He kind of has a vested interest...

...in letting by gones be by gones, you know?

"If we haven’t made mistakes don’t vote for us."
Spoken like a man who knows damn well that he made some bad ones that he can't hide from.

If the Ghoul is the G.O.P. nominee he might not be the first guy to sling personal mud, but as soon as someone brings up his mistriss or whatever he will come back with that "we all make some mistakes in life" approach, and then he will tick off every "mistake" he can think of that Clinton or Obama or Edwards etc. made while piously saying that we shouldn't hold it against them.

[jefferson_dem]

4. That's the point, isn't it. We've all done things we can't hide from.

And leaders should not try to hide. We should expect honesty and also expect the reasonable among us to stand up and call bullshit when nasty politics is played. Instead, Hillary's camp chose to promote the lowest, seemy politics, hoping to claim some strategic advantage. Talk about a vested interest!

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I've actually been thinking about this a lot but don't have time to write a real OP right now

I think Obama has what it takes to handle his past admission of drug use, I really do. I think he can blast anyone out of the water who claims it makes him unfit to be President, and he damn well better do just that when someone tries.

But I don't know that for certain. For example he might stumble into opening up some other can of worms about things that might have gone on when he was a teen if he doesn't give a focused enough reply to questions about his youthful drug use. Now is the time for Obama to demonstrate that he can take heat thrown at him about this and whatever other potentially awkward "factoids" there are from his past.

Clinton's Democratic opponents are able to hitch hike on all the beatings she took as the right wing poster hate child for 10 years. They don't have to bring up those attacks against her, but they still can constantly remind people of them by instead talking about her "baggage", her "electability", and how "polorizing" and "divicive" Clinton is with so many people. It's a free negative ride without having to leave their own fingerprints at the crime scene.

[peace13]

5. If coke is good enough for * it's good enough for Obama.

It should be a non issue now. Sad how the young people are sent to jail for something that the politicians take for granted as usual and accepted. Am I the only ignorant fool that hasn't' done illegal drugs? I am so tired of hearing politicians admit to breaking the law and whimpering about the fallout. Screw that!

[Bitwit1234]

7. And over and over and over the bullshit is promoted here.

[bunnies]

8. Ghoulianis response was admirable.

I remember thinking that when he first said it.

On the other hand, this bullshit by camp Clinton is deplorable at best. Not a single republican has attacked Obama on the issue as far as I know. Yet they're "concerned" about the possibility?!

This pisses me off to no end. :nuke: