Obama plays blame game

[sniffa]

Barack Obama continues his hard-edged, negative campaign -- against his own staff.

The Obama campaign's response to reports on Tuesday that he had stated in a decade-old questionnaire his unequivocal opposition to the existence of guns -- a different position than he states today -- was to blame it on a wayward employee.

"That was a questionnaire filled out in his first state senate campaign back in 1996 not by Senator Obama but by somebody on his staff that didn't get it cleared," US Representative Adam Smith of Washington, an Obama supporter, said on MSNBC Tuesday evening.

Passing blame down to anonymous staff ranks has become something of a tic for Obama.

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And after media attention turned to the "Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)" headline on a June research memo Obama's campaign produced about Clinton's ties to the Indian-American community, Obama called the "unnecessarily caustic" document a "dumb mistake on our campaign's part and I made it clear to my staff in no uncertain terms that it was a mistake."

We'll see where the buck stops if Obama makes it to the White House.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/12/obama_plays_bla.html

ouch. i'm glad she hasn't had a chance to review Clinton's staffers yet.. that could be a bloodbath.

[terisan]

1. I have noted Obama's penchant for blaming the people he seems to regard as underlings

who make "dumb" mistakes.

He also did it in talking about the abortion issue with an anti-abortion person.

[Bitwit1234]

2. You mean he didn't blame Hillary Clinton he does that often.

[sniffa]

5. he does?

that's the first i've heard of it.... today on DU.

[Joe the Revelator]

3. Remember when Hillary took the blame for the "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM"emails and didn't blame her staff?

Oh yeah, thats right, she passed the blame as well.

[Bluebear]

4. Which sounds like Bushites saying "Clinton did it too!"

Does anybody not hold candidates to a degree of accountability without saying "____ did it too!"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Didn't You Know All Evil Disappears With Precedent?

~

[Bluebear]

7. "All Evil Disappears With Precedent"

That says it all, doesn't it? :(

[Joe the Revelator]

8. When a member of Team Hillary makes the call out....

I think it is fair to highlight the hypocrisy.

[Bluebear]

9. Who is on "Team Hillary", the OP?

:rofl:

[sniffa]

10. them's fighting words

:P

[Renew Deal]

23. Or the Clintons "there's no difference between us and them"

:eyes:

[babylonsister]

28. OK. Clinton sucks for not taking responsibility when those negative Obama/Muslim

e-mails went out. It's not her campaign's fault, it's hers!

How'd I do, Bluebear?
:evilgrin:

[Bluebear]

43. ---->

:thumbsup:

:pals:

[ClarkUSA]

22. Don't forget Hillary took the blame for Bill Shaheen's BS and the "Obama is a Muslim" emailers, too.

Oh right, she didn't and ignored all that.

[Maven]

11. Obama, the phony figurehead candidate

If he's elected, expect an administration with zero accountability.

[babylonsister]

17. Why? nt

[babylonsister]

29. Again, why are your expectations so low for Obama? And what do you

mean by a 'figurehead'? He connotes hope for me. If you have a criticism, you should explain why.

[Maven]

30. Obama is an image-based candidate.

He's a great speaker--when he's onstage alone, anyway--and he's done a good job of inventing himself as the embodiment of American idealism that people want desperately to believe in again. But his actual ideas are far from ambitious or inventive, and his debate performances are just so-so. He's missed an inordinate number of important votes in both political offices he's held. And he's perfectly willing to pander to base elements in order to win votes and then use doubletalk to smooth things over. I suppose as a New Yorker I'm immediately suspicious of anyone trying to sell me sunshine, but more importantly, I just don't see him as a leader. He's a product of a political machine that endowed him with rockstar status, which he now uses to disavow any connection to the political machine. To me, that sounds like fakery, not hope.

But as they say on the internets, YMMV. ;)

[babylonsister]

31. Funny that, but I'm a New Yorker, too. Yes, he's not fared well in

debates, no argument there. Everyone has missed an inordinate amount of debates; it's an unfortunate consequence of the stinky beast they've created that is the 'running'.
What base elements might he be pandering to, pray tell? Is it over and above what every candidate is doing, because that too is the nature of the beast.
And I see him as a leader, welcome him! as a leader, with new ideas, a refreshing, new outlook, an end to the dynasties that will hurt our country. Fresh blood looks refreshing; this man or anyone elected will make mistakes, but I trust he will make good decisions. He has integrity and smarts.
P.S. What does YMMV mean?
And the sandman is about to get me, finally! :hi:

[Maven]

32. YMMV = your milage may vary

The base element I was referring to in particular was homophobia. But his apparent willingness to accommodate those who want to see more religion in government also makes me a little queasy.

And no wonder New York is starting to suck...so many good New Yorkers have left. ;)

Anyway, g'nite. :hi:

[babylonsister]

34. That was

awfully nice of you, Harvey Korman! I love my NY and NYers! :hug:

PS You wouldn't happen to be a Giants fan, wouldya?

As for homophobia, Obama was boneheaded and pissed off a lot of people, and I'm sorry he made the choice he did, but someone told him which market to go for, and he did. Not much to be done about that by me after the fact.

Anyway, Go Giants (?!)

[Maven]

35. Uh, YEAH

GO !!!

[TeamJordan23]

12. And Hillary blames George Bush for her Iraq Vote. nm

[Skip Intro]

15. Do you doubt bush lied us into Iraq?

[Lerkfish]

20. hell, even I could tell he was lying.

and I didn't have the same access to intel.

that's a lame excuse, IMHO, for ANYONE that uses it. it was their responsibility to use their judgment to make a good decision. They either poorly executed their duty or they were complicit.

[Skip Intro]

37. Well, they were privy to the cooked intel. Which makes your comparison apples and oranges.

Let me ask you this, did you vote for Kerry in 04?

[Lerkfish]

39. yes I did, what does that have to do with anything?

and I attended 2 Kerry rallies personally and held up signs. what's your point?

[Skip Intro]

40. He was lied into supporting the IWR like Hillary. So I was wondering how one was ok and one was evil

that's all

[Lerkfish]

41. I voted for the Democratic nominee

which was better than reelecting bush. that doesn't mean I approved of his IWR vote, in fact, I felt that was one of his weaker points.

again, what the frick is it to you?

[BenDavid]

13. Folks, obama is an elmer gantry. More like bush everyday.

[babylonsister]

18. Huh? He's not a preacher or a womanizer as far as I know, But that

does remind me of someone...

[maddiejoan]

25. Thank God

I was beginning to think I was the only one to see that.

[Andromeda]

27. Excellent observation.

Even better than the Pied Piper of Hamlin comparison.

I don't expect great things to happen if Obama is the nominee.

[readmoreoften]

33. Neither do I. I am really afraid that if he gets the nod things will go wrong.

I can really see him being happy to work with the neocons and calling it "unity" or some crap. I can see the separation of church and state corrupted further for his political gain, and the nation whooped up into a religious fervor that will only be used against him in 2012. If he got the nod, I'd hope he'd prove me wrong. But he just panders too goddamn much. Nothing is real. He's like brand marketing.

[Skip Intro]

14. It's always someone else's fault with Obama.

Who wants another president who can't take responsibility for his own actions or words?

[maddiejoan]

26. Or that feels attacked

when you say something true about them

[mtnsnake]

16. I'd love to see what he'd say if he backed into someone's parked car.

"Officer, that goddamn car came out of no where and rammed me from behind!"

[babylonsister]

19. Your adoration of the GOP is admirable. Enjoy! nt

[Azathoth]

21. Of course, we all know what the Clintons would say

"I have never driven that car in my life...I opposed driving that car from the beginning..."

[bettyellen]

24. Sniffa Sniffa bo Biffa, fee fi fo Fiffa..... Sniffa!

Now, can we do Chuck, please?

[sniffa]

36. ...

:hi:

:loveya:

how have you been?

[bettyellen]

42. i have been fucking awesomely fabulous....

:loveya:
having too much fun. IF there is such a thing....
:hi:
great to see ya!

[Stop Cornyn]

38. Where's cali in this thread?