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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:17 AM
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Do Hillary supporters believe she is a liberal?
There have been many posts today about Obama's liberal state senate record and how that is a bad thing. So do Hillary supporters think she is a liberal?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:22 AM
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1. Over the weekend, Hillaryworld's meme was Obama was "anti-progressive" and a closet Republican
Now that we debunked those hit pieces from Clinton campaign stenographers Taylor Marsh and The Left Coaster, Hillaryworld has turned on
their Rovian dime and is now crying that Obama is too liberal... let's face it, they're full of shit and playing us for fools -- not so successfully,
I might add.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:29 AM
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2. Check the voting record, it speaks for itself.
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 01:30 AM by The_Casual_Observer
Everything else is pure bullshit, what else matters??
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 06:11 AM
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13. "what else matters?"
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 06:11 AM by depakid
A history of pandering, enabling and outright betrayals from the first Clinton administration maybe?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 AM
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16. please....can we have those "betrayals" back
I miss <4% unemployment, 23 million new jobs, increasing median incomes, effective foreign policy and sane judges...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:32 AM
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3. More liberal than Obama -- last week
They're just in meltdown.

Wait until they get the news about Denzel, at least I think that's what I just saw. :rofl:
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:35 AM
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4. it's ALL about the judges.
Hilary, Obama, Edwards, or Biden judges will be light
years different from Huckabee, Gooolyani, or Romney
judges.
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:41 AM
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5. They are both 100 times more liberal than what we have now.
I think that they should stop demonizing their opponents to promote themselves. This is the primary and we should focus the best candidate. I wish they both would concentrate on discussing the difference in the specific programs instead of trying to get the best buzz word that would help their campaign.
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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:47 AM
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6. Check Hillary's Voting Record. Yep, Liberal.
Any other questions?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 02:15 AM
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7. Welcome to DU.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 02:21 AM
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8. I love your avatar!
Welcome to DU!
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 07:10 AM
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15. Iwr....thousands of lives lost needlessly....not liberal
Problem with Hillary is that she triangulates. She is not that liberal. However, she is PERCEIVED as much more liberal than she is. This would hurt her in the general election, as the Reps campaign about that "wild eyed liberal" (while most of us wonder how she could be called a liberal in the first place!). Kucinich is liberal....not Hillary.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 03:38 AM
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9. Bush's supporters believed he was a good man
:shrug:
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 04:56 AM
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10. Well, sure, but.......
They also believe there is no global warming, that Saddam had WMD, that
Bush talks to God, and probably that the earth is flat, that low density
cholesterol is good for you, and that smoking is good for the lungs.

They don't get their stuff from the same references as the rest of us.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 05:37 AM
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11. a liberal pragmatist
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 05:40 AM by wyldwolf
Her voting record is solidly liberal but her political liberalness is restricted to what is practically obtainable. The Clintons are liberals in the classic Democratic party pre-'68 mode - liberal on social issues, moderate on economic and foreign policy issues while not losing sight of what can be politically achieved in their climate. She is not adverse to compromise when it is necessary to obtain at least part of whatever policy she's hoping to implement.

You will rarely see Hillary pandering to the left by promising to wave her magic wand and absolutely get A, B, and C done by some unrealistic time period.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 06:08 AM
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12. She's most certainly a Liberal
and like me --she's both a Liberal and a realist.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 06:14 AM
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14. Liberal On Social Issues...Moderate On Economic Issues...Moderate On Foreign Policy Issues...
Moderate On Defense Issues...
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:14 AM
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17. Hillary's own response was to defend the "classic" version of a liberal but not....
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 10:16 AM by Armstead
...what we consider liberal today.

In doing so, she revealed her neo-liberal (corporate conservative) bias. The original version of a liberal was hands-off the economy and let the free market do its magic.

She may be a "liberal" on some social issues, but she is corporate conservative in the ways that matter.

(P.S.I heard that statement in her own words. But I don't have a definite link to it.)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:24 AM
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18. well the Kyl/Lieberman bill is liberal dogma
so yes.
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