Clintons trot out Lanny "Loving Lieberman" Davis to trash Obama.

[geek tragedy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/its-time-for-sen-obama-_b_76361.html

It's the same crap we've heard before--a combination of lies, half-truths and non-sequiturs.

Sample:

5. Your commitment to visit five dictators in your first year as president. In one of the Democratic debates, you committed to visiting five dictators in Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Iran and North Korea, without preconditions, personally, in your first year as president. You later tried to revise what you actually said by stating you were referring only to the principle of the need to negotiate with "hostile governments." (But that is not what you said at the debate.) Then you criticized Sen. Clinton for not being willing to negotiate with hostile governments, which is false, and you knew it was false. In fact, you knew that Sen. Clinton had already endorsed the Hamilton-Kean task force recommendation for the U.S. to negotiate with Syria and Iran to assist in finding a regional solution to the Iraq war.

Typical Lieberscum sleaze--Obama said he would be WILLING to meet with them.

Anyhow, Lanny Davis is a former Lieberman advisor who called Joementum's critics 'bigots' and 'liars.' He's also a former member of the George W. Bush administration:

http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/12/livin-lovin-lieberman/

Lanny Davis also supported Ted Olson to be Attorney General.

http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/02/what-did-we-do-to-deserve-lanny-davis/

[Cha]

1. Oh No! That's

what bushites do..never met a cadaver they couldn't resurrect.

Gawd, that lanny davis is a worthless pos.

[geek tragedy]

3. Check out this from Woolcot:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2006/01/lanny_davis_loo.html

[Cha]

32. Too bad it's impossible

to cut and paste from Wolcott's blog..I'd like to show that part about lanny pos davis not wanting the Democrats to politicize the jack abramhoff case and let the facts of the case emerge.

Question, ok two..What the fuck is his agenda that he finds it necessary to wag his finger at Dems and why should they listen to him?

dlc dems=dinos who infiltrated and called themselves "dems"..thinking we're too dumb to see them for what they are..money grubbing, war mongering, lying sobs.

[liberalnurse]

14. Obama needs the practice with responding to critical opinions.

If he wants the Big Chair.....then he will have to sharpen his debate skills. What a safe way to develope the techinque, with that of a peer.

[geek tragedy]

37. Lanny Davis is a Pug-Lite goon, not a peer of Obama.

Quite frankly, Hillary's too good to be associating with trash like this.

[Cha]

43. Don't try to tell hillary

that..she'd never believe you.

[Cha]

42. I have no problem

with that..the problem is the scuzzbuckets the clintons hang out with.

[AzDar]

2. Ugh.

:puke:

[maximusveritas]

4. He did worse than that

He wrote a column in the WSJ accusing liberal blogs of "liberal McCarthyism" and posted a bunch of out-of-context quotes, attributing random commenters at various sites to the site itself. http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008763
Al Franken disposed of him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQTW7DAOfcM

[proudmoddemo]

5. I am going to say it: I think Hillary/Lieberman would be the ticket

I think Hillary would choose Lieberman as her running mate if she wins the nomination. It'd be the perfect triangulation move.

[Whisp]

17. that's the ticket. Hillary and Joe

it will be Hillary/Joe
of course we will get the screamers and laughers - the no way crowd... but just look back even just this one year and see how we all got sold out by the dems. a perfect couple for wars and rumours of wars.
it's in the stars. so all this scrapping and shouting here is just for show.

[Cameron27]

19. Of course she won't chose Lieberman

what a joke.

[proudmoddemo]

29. It was a joke, but like all good ones

It had an element of truth to it. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened...Hillary and Joe go way back. To his time running for the State senate in CT.

[Cameron27]

36. Yes, and Obama and Joe were tight too.

[proudmoddemo]

49. I don't support Obama

But since I am voting on February 12th, I may vote for him. I will vote for whomever is left but Hillary at that point--even Mike Gravel. Hopefully, I will get to vote for my first choice, Bill Richardson.

[Cameron27]

54. It's your vote,

do with it what you want. I'll be voting for Clinton in the primary.

[Skip Intro]

6. Why does Obama run from what he said. Davis' account is absolutely the way I remember it.

That would be an odd coincidence had it not really happened that way, eh?


I'm glad this is back up again. We're not gonna have an effin microscope on Hillary and the others, and say, "oh well, that's not what he meant" for Obama. He did say he'd be willing to meet with those leaders, WITHOUT PRECONDITION, during his FIRST year in office. He did accuse Hillary of refusing to meet with those leaders, which is not what she said. He hasn't answered this, he's avoided and misdirected over it, tho.

Well within political rules to call someone on their own words.

[Cha]

38. Nice little bunch there..

you support.

lanny davis=dlc/dino/pos.

And, yeah, I hope this backfires on their "inevitability" hillary clinton think tank, asses.

[Skip Intro]

56. They're Obama's words.

That's the point some people are ignoing.

[Cha]

61. And?

Big deal.

[terisan]

7. and told us to give GW a chance after her stoe the Oval Office.

[blm]

8. Mark Penn and Mandy Grunwald were working for Lieberman, too.

The REAL powers that be in the Clinton inner circle. I also recall Hillary 'donating' her communications guy, Wolfson, to Lamont after he won the primary and then Lamont camp started to have trouble getting their message out.

Sorry - but I don't believe in coincidences anymore when it comes to Bushes or Clintons and their loyalists.

[Cha]

39. And I thought she

was being so helpful.

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. why is it "trash?" It is an accurate account of what happened

I am certain you would not suggest that we cannot question Obama?

[Cameron27]

10. Is he worse than Robert Gibbs,

Obama's spokesperson?

[geek tragedy]

11. Yes. Mega Lieberdem.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2006/01/lanny_davis_loo.html

[Cameron27]

13. Sorry no,

I never saw anything more revolting than the hatchet job Gibbs did on Howard Dean.

[maximusveritas]

18. Do you have a link?

Other than Jerome Armstrong of course. He provided no evidence Gibbs was involved in that ad and even avoided making the accusation. Gibbs was just group's spokesman.

Meanwhile, we know Davis was involved personally in a hatchet job on the liberal blogosphere, accusing us of being bigots and anti-semites. So I think he's worse, by a long shot.

[Cameron27]

22. My link would be to Jerome.

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[jefferson_dem]

12. Oh Lord! Can we please be done with the Clintons and all their slimy cronies?

It's like "Attaboy Brownie" redux...

[Cameron27]

16. Oh BS

Obama's no saint and he didn't hire apostles either.

[geek tragedy]

23. Lanny Davis is a special breed of awful.

A true Lieberdem.

[Cha]

46. Why..that would be a

repuke.

[cmkramer]

53. Lefty bloggers make me laugh

What a bunch of whiny crybabies they are. I read the article and it was very very tame. I expected all sorts of vile and nasty exaggerations.

So he's not a good Democrat because he was smart enough to see through Neddy Lamont and his stormtroopers?

[Skip Intro]

21. Man, some Obama supporters really like to compare Hillary to the bush gang.

This one is new.

But hell, Obama likes doing it, why not his supporters?

[mtnsnake]

24. That's because half of them are probably Bush supporters themselves

Only a Bush supporter would attack the top running Democrat like they do. lol

[jefferson_dem]

31. That's funny because I thought it was only Chimpy's myrmidonic lock-step loyalists who

challenged people's right to protest a political figurehead. I guess some now think Queen Hill is beyond reproach. Sounding more and more repugish every day...

[jefferson_dem]

26. They are flip sides of the same corroded coin. Ack...

Had enough? Fuck yes!

[Skip Intro]

28. Obama has (on some days) many of the same positions as Hillary. You've fallen for an illusion.

Sorry to break it to you.

[jefferson_dem]

33. Who said anything about "issues"?

This is about the Clintonian personality defects...and their sorry style of politics.

[Skip Intro]

51. Was there something inaccurate in the OP? Why shoot the messenger?

It's not just a river in Egypt, you know.

[blm]

58. Obama believes in closed government that protects secrecy and privilege of BushInc?

Are you sure?

[mtnsnake]

25. Unlike McClurkin's hero, Obama, Hillary has no slimy cronies. It's not her fault Obama's a hypocrite

and that somebody pointed it out accurately. Lots of people do it everyday.

[jefferson_dem]

40. Lanny, Penn, and Wolfson...Is there a more smarmier trio in American politics today?

:puke:-er-amma...

[Cha]

47. Well, if you want to be technical..

there's rove, limpballs, and beck.

[proudmoddemo]

41. Really?

A guy that busts unions is her chief strategist and a guy that love Lieberman (who, by the way, is himself very close to Hillary) and doesn't want Democrats to "politicize" the Abramoff case is one of her best buddies.

[Gloria]

15. I'm not an Obama fan, but Lanni Davis is really the most disgusting

creature one can imagine!!

[mtnsnake]

20. The guy makes tons of accurate condemnations of Obama. Good article. I thought you liked Obama, btw

Wow, does that guy ever show what a hypocrite Obama has been, especially concerning the war. Thanks for posting this, geek.

[BeyondGeography]

27. Actually, the bit about the war is interesting

because, if Lanny is to be believed, eight times Obama refused to trash his Senate colleagues.

I would like to see the 2004 campaign quote in context. The "I don't know" quote that gets the most publicity came in response to a question put to Obama by Russert after he was elected and was phrased like this: What made you smarter on this issue than all of your Democratic colleagues who voted for it? Obama refused to bite then and subsequently.

It should also be noted that Hillary was one of the Senators whose reputation Obama was trying to protect, that's right, protect, when he punted on Russert's question. Obama's reward for that good deed, yes, good deed, was to have Bill bring it up on the campaign trail and Lanny here again with his screed. No surprise, all's fair in love and war and all that. But anyone who uses the Russert quote to call Obama a hyprocrite on IWR is guilty of pure ignorance.

[mtnsnake]

34. The real reason he's a hypocrite is because he continues to vote to fund the war

while preaching how he's the only viable anti-war candidate. Everyone knows that if Obama was in the Senate when the IWR came up for voting, he would've voted AYE just like Hillary, Biden, Edwards, and Dodd. That much is obvious.

Regardless, you don't go preaching how you're the only candidate of the senaators who's against the war and then vote yes to keep the war going every time a vote to fund the war comes up. Like Kucinich says, they could stop the war in a month if they all just voted to stop the funding, but hypocrites like Obama say one thing and do another.

[BeyondGeography]

44. Everyone doesn't know that; half of the Democrats in the Senate voted against it

including Durbin, whose vote, when Obama was asked about IWR in November of 2002, he says he would have followed.

The one fact that you'll never be able to get away from is that Obama made a clear speech against IWR and the war in October of 2002. Among the things he said was that the threat from Saddam and Iraq did not warrant a reciprocal threat of invasion from the U.S. Had he been wrong in that statement, nobody outside of Illinois ever would have heard of Barack Obama. He stuck his neck out and was right. The rest is word games.

[geek tragedy]

35. Davis makes his living trashing his own party

and sucking up to Republicans.

He was a member of Chimpy's administration.

[Cha]

50. Yeah, lanny davis is up

for sale..smooth talkin' A$$hole.

[Imagevision]

45. Yeah let's start; "slinging the mud" go Hillary you're our girl (or somebody's?)

[jefferson_dem]

48. Oh, I take back my criticism. I forgot DilldO'Reilly hearts Lanny...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608090008

[Cha]

52. Both are mediawhores..

"On the August 8 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, host Bill O'Reilly stated that "the far left in America is dominated by haters, people who despise their own country," adding that "he smear merchants are now all over the mainstream media and have spread like lice on the net." O'Reilly cited an op-ed in the August 8 edition of The Wall Street Journal by Lanny J. Davis, a former special counsel to President Clinton, which quoted from weblog posts that Davis characterized as full of "extremism, bigotry and intolerance." O'Reilly addressed "anti-Semitic stuff directed at Joe Lieberman " in his "Talking Points Memo" and read from two of the weblog quotes Davis had included in his Journal op-ed. But read in context, one of the quotations O'Reilly cited was clearly a parody of an anti-Semitic rant and both were from comments posted to the weblogs O'Reilly mentioned. Neither O'Reilly nor Davis cited any evidence that either commenter spoke for anyone in the progressive community or indeed that the commenter is actually a progressive."

"O'Reilly and Davis simply misrepresented a comment by tomjones that appeared on the Daily Kos website on December 7, 2005. The initial comment, followed by tomjones's reply, went as follows:

Why Should Joe Care ... about a bunch of goyim dying in Iraq? It's not like anybody he cares about is suffering as a direct result of the war."

Thank the Uni for mediamatters!

[gateley]

55. It says he's a supporter and fundraiser for Hillary - but is he a PART of her

campaign? Is he actually affiliated with the campaign or the Clintons? I didn't read all the posts, but from what I scanned, I don't see a real connection between them. :shrug:

[0007]

57. I like Joe Lieberman. When he's asleep, the problem is that he doesn't

sleep enough.

[geek tragedy]

60. I'd like him better if he was a vampire.

That way, he'd sleep during the hours I watch television.

[0007]

62. Know whatcha mean!

[MethuenProgressive]

59. "same crap we've heard before--a combination of lies, half-truths and non-sequiturs."

From EdwbamaNation, that is.