CBS-NYT Poll -Clinton 44% Obama 27% Edwards 11%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20071211_POLL.pdf

[maddiejoan]

1. This poll doesn't count.

It shows Clinton ahead.

[Hardrada]

3. It's way too early for these polls to mean anything of significance.

Sorry.

[suston96]

9. Way too early....

Yeah, it is.

[BeyondGeography]

2. More: G.O.P. Voters Are Uninspired by Candidates

==Three weeks before the Iowa caucuses, Republicans voters across the country appear uninspired by their field of presidential candidates, with a vast majority saying they have not made a final decision about who to support, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

None of the Republican candidates is viewed favorably by even half of the Republican electorate, the poll found. In a sign of the fluidity of the race, one candidate who had barely registered in early polls several months ago, Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, is now locked in a tight contest nationally with Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York and Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.

...Democratic voters, on the whole, view their candidates considerably more favorably than Republican voters do, and are much more optimistic about their prospects next November. Mrs. Clinton is viewed favorably by 68 percent of Democrats, followed by Mr. Obama who is viewed favorably by 54 percent. Mr. Edwards is viewed favorably by just 36 percent.

By contrast, on the Republican side, Mr. Giuliani is viewed the most favorably by members of his party — and that is by only 41 percent. Mr. McCain is viewed favorably by 37 percent and Mr. Romney is viewed favorably by 36 percent. Mr. Huckabee is viewed favorably by 30 percent, but 42 percent said they didn’t know enough about him to say whether to offer a view of him, suggesting that he might be vulnerable to the kind of attacks that his opponents have already been raising against them.==

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/10/us/politics/11cnd-poll.html?hp

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. That PDF Is Thirty Seven Pages

I think the Huckster is done... America likes their president to be a "believer" but his views on homosexuality and that his campaign's success is divinely inspired will turn off a lot of folks...

[BeyondGeography]

5. There was also a line about wives having to "graciously submit" that I saw earlier today

that he made in 1998...tough sell there.

McCain is their best answer; hopefully, they'll pass.

[BootinUp]

6. Thats standard Southern Baptist

stuff.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Would make those single anxious females the press has been pushing

a little more anxious.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. That's Why I No Longer Am

But I still believe in the Social Gospel, the power of redemption, and in the gift of forgiveness...

[BootinUp]

14. I'm sort of a mixed bag

myself. cheers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Ha

What finally turned me off to the church was a pastor saying the California wildfires back in 93 were remedial judgments from God for electing Bill Clinton... It was hard for me because my dad died when I was thirteen and the deacons and some church members were like surrogate fathers to me... They would take me and do stuff that dads do with their kids...


That why I was mildly sympathetic to The Huckster ( I wouldn't vote for a Republican if you put a gun to my head) but then I learned of all the reactionary nonsense he was peddling...

[BootinUp]

17. I am very much opposed

to direct meddling in politics in church. That is sermons that call out specific candidates or issues. Haven't really found a home I'm happy with yet.

[MADem]

8. Watch--the GOP will go to the Old Workhorse, McCain.

No one is covering him, but he's the best known and least offensive of the lot. Not that this is saying much, but that's just fact.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Unfavorables that never go north of the low 30's

impressive as he's been around a long time...By far the best option.

[BootinUp]

11. I'll be surprised though, I still think its Mitter. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Who Will Be Harder To Beat Than The Huckster But Easier To Beat Than McCain

~

[Olney Blue]

22. Is this a trick question?

:crazy:

[MADem]

20. The media WANT it to be him, but someone will have to cheat like hell to make it so.

And hell--like we've never seen THAT happen!!!

Way too many people just don't LIKE Mormons. They don't like their 'heathenish, cultish ways,' they don't like their idiotic beliefs, their Missouri Garden of Eden and Golden Tablets and so forth, they don't like their habit of baptizing YOUR ancestors and putting them in their little books, they don't like their history of mutiple wives, and they don't like their foolish Holy Underwear. The ones who secretly harbor a discrimination against blacks can find one little piece of theological bullshit in thier beliefs that they can agree with, but overall, they look at them with Ye Olde Jaundiced Eye.

And they'll DENY that they don't like them to your face, to anyone's face. "Ooooooh, nooooo," they say--"Religion doesn't make a difference!!" When they get in that little voting booth, and look right and left, or twitch that curtain WELL and TRULY closed...it makes a difference.

Romney has money up the ass, but he also has a father (and the racist faith of his fathers, too) who said that he was BRAINWASHED by the generals in Vietnam. If he gets any traction at all, expect that to be dug back up. Of course, he does have buddies in NH--LOTS of them, in that business center area around Manchester-Bedford. Creepy guys, with greasy hair and slick suits. Ugh.

I did run into a Romney supporter the other day, one table over. As I listened in horror, I realized the speaker believed that neither a woman nor a black 'deserved' to be president, and that Mitt was the best of the lot.

Ewwwww.

It's certainly an 'interesting' field the GOP has...

[BootinUp]

21. They just couldn't produce another in the

GWB or Ronnie mold I guess. Lord knows they tried. lol.

[proudmoddemo]

15. They're Going to Nominate Huckabee--and he may win

This stuff is an advantage in the Republican primaries. The hard-right actually does believe this crap. And now they finally have a candidate--instead of the one that liked to dress up in drag when he was Mayor or the one that claimed he'd be better than Ted Kennedy on gay rights. This is a net plus for Huckabee in a Republican Primary.

After he gets the nomination, it may be a liability. But you also have to remember that the hard right actually believes that Hillary Clinton is the anti-Christ. A Hillary nomination does 10 fold more than the gay marriage initiatives did to turn out the radical right.

Then there's the other issue: there's probably going to be an anti-war third party candidate under that scenario. That candidate would be Ron Paul. And he'll drain 4-8% of the Democratic vote--people opposed to the war that can't stomach Hillary's support of it.

I think Huckabee could win by a substantial margin--maybe even in a landslide--against Hillary.

This is bad news because Huckabee is Bush recycled. But it is what it is. I may move to Canada if Huckabee wins.

[BootinUp]

23. I still think

Hillary could garner significant support from women in a GE changing the dynamic of the race in our favor, over the standard L v R equation.

[Olney Blue]

24. Welcome to DU, proudmoddemo.

:hi:

You sound like you have given this alot of thought- thanks for the analysis.

[bunnies]

18. Whats up with Edwards?

It is me or is he going down? Serious question.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Depends On Which Poll

I think it's fair to say he's solidly in third...

[creeksneakers2]

25. They are ignoring Edwards now.

Lots of excitement about Obama and Oprah. Hillary is always covered. Edwards is only competitive in Iowa or a couple other places. He's not a threat in the horse race.

Edwards got press attention for awhile by bashing Hillary but he says he isn't doing that any more. Edwards still bashes but its the same old stuff and lower key. They have no reason to follow Edwards now.

[JI7]

27. this is a national poll, what matters are early voting state polls

[Karmadillo]

26. Interesting. Thanks for posting this.

nt