Democratic Primary Voters- Hillary Running Most Positive Campaign

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Hillary Clinton was viewed as running the most positive campaign of the leading Democratic candidates. About seven in 10 Democratic primary voters said she has spent more time explaining, four times the number who said she has spent more time attacking.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/10/new-nytimescbs-poll-explain-dont-attack/#more-3247

I always knew my fellow Democrats were too smart to buy the Chris Matthews, Tim Russert,Chuck Todd spiked Kool Aid...

[BeyondGeography]

1. Overall, this makes sense

Since she has been behind in some polls in Iowa, not so much.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I See A Disconnect Between IA, NH, And National Dems

Let's see if it holds...

IA and NH Dems think Hillary is running a negative campaign... National Dems see it differently.... This is shaping up into the classic inurgent vs traditional Democrat race...Last time the insurgent won was 1976... We'll see how this plays out...

[BeyondGeography]

4. LOL...so other than the two paces where the race is hot right now, she's seen as positive

OK.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Yeah- Because IA And NH Are Homogeneous States

The rest of the nation isn't as homogeneous... You will learn that shortly... HRC's base is working class voters, single women, Hispanic voters, and African American voters...Even if Obama puts a large dent in her share of the African American vote we'll see how he does when Richardson, Biden, and Edwards aren't in the race, since the polls, which the Obams supporters now embrace, show Hillary Clinton as the overwhelming second choice of these voters...

And these ordinary folk don't listen to Chris Matthews and Tim Russert... They just remember they felt secure in the nineties and aren't swayed by ethereal notions of how things could be or bamboozled by the false notion that their lives sucked in the nineties...

[BeyondGeography]

6. I'm sure we'll all be learning a few things over the next six weeks

and if you think it's all going downhill for Obama after two of the whitest states in the country vote, you really are stuck in the 90s.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. You Called Them The Two Whitest States Not Me

NH and IA voters also have higher levels of education and incomes than other Americans and the caucus system of voting magnifies those disparities between IA and the rest of the nation's voters...

And I know that Obama supporters have become devotees of polls as of late so I thought I would share this with you:


"she wins the lion’s share of support among those who make Biden their first choice, and she does well among those who would first choose New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson.""


http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1395


And in NH,HRC is the overwhelming second choice of John Edwards voter...


It really has nothing to do with race...Garden variety Democrats remember the 90's as a happy and prosperous time... They are not going to be bamboozled into thinking they weren't...

[BeyondGeography]

8. He's up 51-27 w/blacks vs. HRC in the latest SC poll

and he's just getting started with them. Hillary's flippity-floppity on drivers licenses for immigrants (ultimately coming down on the hard-ass side of things) will hurt her with Hispanics. Oh, and that Oprah thing, wonder who watches her show, economically speaking, that is...

As for the 2nd choice data, you must be nervous if that is what you're hanging you're hat on right now, we'll see. What's the reliablity of those numbers one month out from the vote? Not much, I'd suspect.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Yes-Obama Has Done Much To Court African Americans In SC And Has Been Successful

We will see if he can duplicate that result elsewhere... Mitt Romney's speech was pure garbage but the point he made that a candidate should neither be rejected or selected because of his religion was spot on... I would add race or orientation to that too...

I'll just repeat the point I have been making in this thread... Most ordinary folk remember the 90's as a happy time... Maybe Obama can convince them they weren't happy...

Yes, I have read ad infinitum and ad nauseum this is a change election but change from what... I suspect most folks would rather go back to the nineties than gamble the future might be better or not than those years...

[BeyondGeography]

12. Problem is, there's no going back to the 90's

and the 90's are about as relevant as the 50's right now.

It's 2008; how relevant were the 50's in 1968? How relevant were the 60's in 1978, etc. Is there anything less relevant than the prior decade 8 years into the next one? Please stop talking about a decade in which China, Russia and India were economic non-entities, in which oil was often less than $20 a barrel, etc. The 90's are dead, done, gone. The Internet was just getting started, the country was less diverse, less afraid of the outside world, financially stronger and economically fairer...

The Clintons have made this entire campaign about the past (an impossibly lame strategy in this change-at-the-speed-of-light day and age). It's over and the country needs to be energized if it is to be restored to anything like it was in the 90's. New leadership required.

[maddiejoan]

2. I agree with your OP but --

:popcorn:

[zulchzulu]

10. I bet there's a kid in kindergarden that is writing a paper disagreeing with that assessment

If people think that Clinton has been running a positive campaign, they aren't paying attention.

[Cameron27]

11. That's good to hear,

she has been running the most positive campaign. I'm glad that the majority of Dem. primary voters agree with me.

[Alamom]

13. k&r