So are we going to be able to come together behind the eventual nominee?

[cali]

To me this primary season on DU does seem more ranorous than in 2004, though that could be a misperception. I know that there are some folks who don't feel that in conscience they can support Clinton, but how large a faction that is, I don't know. I'm hopeful that outside of DU, democrats will back the democratic nominee. Personally, I'll be backing whover gets the nomination. I don't think any of them are ideal, but I certainly think that any of them are preferable to the repukes-by far, and I don't believe that Clinton or Obama are corporate tools or bush lite.

[Perry Logan]

1. Many DUers have said they will not vote for Hillary. I think they should be thrown out of here.

[cali]

2. I don't.

As long as they don't advocate for her losing, I don't see why they should be kicked out.

[H2O Man]

4. Right.

First, it is unclear who will be the democratic nominee for president in 2008. Those who want to kick DUers out because they don't support a potential nominee are silly, at very best.

Second, a heck of a lot can change between now and November 2008. Those who think one way today may find that shifting circumstances cause changes in the way they approach the voting booth.

Third, a person is not required to support the campaign or vote for each and every democrat in every single race in the United States of America, to be a good democrat. So long as they are not campaigning against the party, or for a candidate from another party, it is silly (at very best) for self-appointed party purity experts to advocate silencing the voices of those with honest concerns about the elections.

[izquierdista]

3. They will leave on their own

Once you change the name to "Triangulating Compromising Lobbyists-are-real-people-too Underground"

[cali]

5. There's no guarantee that Clinton will be nominee

Not that my gut is invariably right, but I have a feeling it won't be. In any case, I disagree with your simplistic "analysis" of who Clinton is.

[Skidmore]

23. Good one! Although, I have my own opinion on who are members of that group.

[DB1]

8. I'd like to think we will all unite behind the nominee

I am "anti-Hillary" because she is near the bottom my list but I would never ever not use my right to vote, and hence, Go Hillary! If I were to caucus this is my order Kucinich,Obama, Edwards,Dodd,Richardson,Biden,Clinton.

[Colobo]

10. Nah, they say that now.

If Hillary is nominated, they'll vote for her.

The thing is that they probably won't have to. :)

[MethuenProgressive]

18. One Candidate says "it's a lie that any Democrat is better than any Republican"

I wonder if he'll vote for our nominee?
I know I will.

[Clark2008]

34. I'll vote for any of them except that candidate.

I had to get my son to press the button when he ran as VP last time - because I distrust him that much.

[mtnsnake]

25. A great deal of those people will probably leave on their own anyway, no matter who wins the Dem nod

Shit, they're only here for one purpose, and that's to bring Hillary Clinton...ANY Clinton...down. I wouldn't be surpised if half of them are just imposters making believe they like another candidate just to give them cover while they post their crap against the Democrat they fear the most.

[MadBadger]

29. Ok Hitler.

[patricia92243]

6. I am here at DU because I am a Democrat. Of course I will vote for OUR nominee.

[Bitwit1234]

7. I think whom ever it is --- we should support them

every day we get more and more horror stories from this administration. And any person who can not support the Democratic candidate should be thrown out of the country or made to sign over to the republican party in public.

Obama has none of the things that would make him president. He is light weight, immature and doesn't know the first thing about what to do. But even he, I would support, if my a miracle he got the nomination. We would all have to back him, because he, of all the candidates would give the republicans their best chance to keep the presidency.

[cali]

11. Aaarrrghh.

what crap you always throw around. Your hands must stink. Your slam against Obama is simply repugnant. You are clueless.

We don't all have to do anything, despite your statement to the contrary.

That you, the chief whinger about Clinton bashing should sling ugly shit constantly about Obama, is rich with irony. When people complain about Clinton supporters here, I think of you first- because those complaints are completely justified.

[Tom Rinaldo]

33. Though I do not support him...

Obama is absolutely not a light weight. His resume may be light, but he isn't. The man is pretty damn impressive in many ways

Seriously folks, in order to come together in fighting form this summer, it would help if we could honestly argue the relative strengths and weaknesses, good points and bad, of our possible candidates without resorting to knee capping them by saying crap like Obama is in way over his head, Hillary is Bush-lite, or Edwards is a political ambulance chaser. None of our candidates come from the right wing of the Democratic Party, let alone ressemble any of the Republicans they might face. All of them are high power individuals who have accomplished a great deal already in their lives.

[oasis]

9. Support the Dem nominee. Of course. (eom)

[William769]

12. If Obama were to be the Democratic nominee, I will not support him.

In the beginning of this primary I would have supported any of our candidates, yes even Obama. But his lack of will to smack down bigotry over the GLBT community stinks to high heaven. Given the background of his heritage I would have expected better.

At least with a Republican I know who my enemy is, and quite frankly I prefer it that way.

Yes that one incident was a deal breaker for me.

[DB1]

13. I see your point but.....

If he is the nominee, there is a much better chance of moving in the direction of rights for all than in a republican administration. To say you would vote Republican must be just out of anger I hope. You would not actually do it would you? We must unite behind the Dem nominee whoever he/she may be for the sake of the country.

[William769]

15. It's not out of anger, it out of survival.

I just celebrated my 44th birthday and I have seen a lot in my short 44 years on this earth. My parents raised me to not to be a bigot. My father was one of the people who escorted kids to make sure they had the right to integration in Little Rock so many years ago.

No I will not vote Republican in the election, I just won't vote.

[DB1]

17. Sorry I inferred you would vote Republican, that was wrong,

I just feel that we must exercise our right to vote, maybe a "none of the above choice" on the ballot would help for some, but to just not vote breeds more apathy and that is what lets the few hateful folks in our nation ruin life for the rest of us.

[Tom Rinaldo]

32. Seriously. A Republican winning the White House in 2008...

...will make survival harder. I've been through the "I would rather have an overt enemy to fight" debates before. It was used as a reason not to support Jimmy Carter in 1980. Want a Federal Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as being between one man and one woman? Want more federal judges who do not consider discrimination against gays and lesbians to be a civil rights issue? A great way to start would be to enable Republicans to control the White House for another four years. Not to mention that poverty and war are equal rights killers.

[Colobo]

26. If Clinton were to be the nominee, I will support her, because I'm a Democrat.

She's better than any Republican, and so is Obama, and you know it, William.

[William769]

27. Is he?

Sure could have fooled me. But then again some people refuse to take off their blinders.

[Colobo]

30. William, I am not going to argue with you.

You are a good guy and I appreciate you, and I also believe you have valid reasons to feel the way you feel about Obama. However, I don't think any of our candidates is as bad as a Republican, nor I think any of them is actually even close to being a bigot. They might be somewhat misguided on some issues, but they will still do more for the civil rights of all Americans.

As much as I think Hillary Clinton is the closest thing to a Republican without being one apart of disliking her in general, I believe she is better than them and will sacrifice to vote for her if necessary, because America needs someone that can bring some sanity back to the WH. I expect all good Democrats to help save the nation from peril by voting Democrat in 08, regardless of who the candidate might be.

[William769]

31. I also consider you a good guy but...

The fact of the matter is it was not a idea that Obama enabled, it was a persons way of life. most people can over look some things they believe in, How can someone overlook who they are? it is who I am. Thats what people can't seem to understand.

There are several things I don't like about several of the candidates But I would still vote for them in the general. Obama is a different story though. I am who I am, it is not a choice, it's how I was born.

[EV_Ares]

14. Have said before, no problem with any one of these candidates

on the Dem ticket. My choice however, is not the front runner which is Hillary but I certainly would have no problem with her as my President of these great United States. Naturally Obama or Edwards are my choices or Kucinich or Biden. Any one of these people are far, far superior than anything the republicans have to offer the people of this country.

It appears However that some of the Hillary supporters are for banning those that don't support Hillary from DU, even throwing people out of the country, refusing to vote period, rather than support the democratic candidate. Yet, says is concerned about their country & would basically support the republican nominee to help take this country further towards disaster.

WOW, what a democratic, freedom sort of attitude. LOL, now I have a better understanding of some of the posts I have read here.

[MaineDem]

16. I will be proud to support and work for our nominee - without question

Any one of ours is far and away better than all of theirs. This is too important to screw around with. He or she will have my total support.

[mmonk]

19. I don't think the election is more rancorous than 04. I do believe

there is a new awareness that some democrats do not represent as much change as is needed as our country's troubles and the constitutional demise deepens.

[JohnnyLib2]

20. I'll support our candidate, but have doubts about "coming together."

After all, the last two elections (legal or not) had swings toward the RW/conservative/God'n Country fellow who is now president. Some of those "swingers" were from the Democratic side.

Another issue is how much staying power our potential nominee will have through the next 11 months: an ugly battle to the death seems inevitable.
We need a tough candidate with endurance.

[Vickers]

21. Yes, I think we *will* all come together.

:spank:

[H2O Man]

22. Come Together

(Lennon's campaign song .....)

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me

He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three"
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me

[Armstead]

24. Unless a real third-party candidate comes out of the woodwork

I'm not endorsing that idea. I think whoever is the Dem nominee should get everyone's support in the General.

However, if someone with a valid background runs as a third-party candidate and starts a movement, the divisions will continue.

I'm not talking about Nader, he's seen his day.

But I suspect what will end up happening is that everyone is so fed up with BushCo that the Democratic nominee will be backed by almost everyone who doesn't want to see the GOP hold on to power.

[suston96]

28. Will we come together?

We had better come together. The alternative is unthinkable.

[dionysus]

35. as much as some of us dislike her as a candidate...

i don't see anyone voting repuke because of it.

[dbackjon]

36. I hope so. As much as I bash Obama for McClurkingate

I will support him if he is the nominee.

[Tesha]

37. As long as its not Clinton, sure. (NT)

[MadHound]

38. Depends on who the nominee is

If it is Clinton, then you're going to see people fleeing the party, both here at DU and in the real world at large. I know many people, including myself, who won't vote for Hillary either in the primary or general election. However I think that any one of the other candidates can be somebody that the party can get behind.

[hayu_lol]

39. In the end, most of us will come together...

as fractous Dems, we can fight amongst ourselves better than any other political group. When the chips are finally on the table, we will make a difference.

How would you like being a Repugnant with the bunch of real Clowns they have to contend with?

:^)

[cali]

40. Who knows? You don't. I don't.

But I always find the little oracles running around DU, quite amusing. They almost never get it right. And those who extrapolate from personal experience, are the most amusing.

[MadHound]

41. You know what I find amusing?

It is the way you almost always find a way to insult people, get that little jab in, if that person is posting something you dislike. Never mind reasonable debate, or a polite exchange, you always go straight to the insult. Amusing, and sadly predictable.