Andrew Young wants Obama to be President in 2016 theres only one problem with that

[bigdarryl]

if a democrat wins in 09 and is reelected in 2012 who ever the Vice President is more than likely will want to run and will get the nomination handed down to them thats just how the system seems to work. Obama can't win going against a sitting Vice President running for President. so Andrew Young is misinform a little bit about Presidential politics. in my opinion if he looses the nomination this is the only chance he will get to run i see no scenario IN THE NEAR FUTURE where he gets to run again and win.if the rethug party wins again in 09 and has eight years thats the only other shot i see he has

[maddiejoan]

1. Become Hillary's VP

That would solve it.

[bigdarryl]

2. Not happening because first of all she's not winnin g either in 09

[maddiejoan]

6. Good.

Hillary will be President, and we won't have to worry about Obama's future for a long time.

At 46 years old , it's not like there's a ticking clock.

I'd like him to be President AFTER he has experience, and AFTER the more experienced clean up the mess Bush has made.

[bigdarryl]

8. Well if experience is yor main thing for not voting for him then why are you not voting for Dodd or

Biden Hillary's claim to fame is she is married to Bill and was first lady if that is the new criteria for being President than that means Laura Bush is qualified to be President

[ClarkUSA]

12. Hmm... still waiting for the answer.

*crickets*

[maddiejoan]

15. Hillary as First Lady

does not equal Laura Bush as First Lady.

A closer analogy would Eleanor Roosevelt.

And I'm not for Dodd or Biden because I don't think they have the stuff to win this election.

[earthlover]

19. hillary is not more experienced!

And the experience she has is sucking up to Bush! IWR. Kyl-Lieberman. Et al.

We don't need her type of experience.

Obama will have 8 years elected experience....2 in washington, and 6 in Illinois state congress.

Lincoln had 8 years elected experience...2 in washington, and 6 in Illinois state congress.

I guess Lincoln obviously did not have enough experience for the task! sarc

[maddiejoan]

29. Please

You obviously don't even know where Obama stands on the K/L issues.

As far as his 8 years of "experience", from where I'm sitting, he appears to have done nothing with it and over half of it has been running for President.

[earthlover]

31. Obama was opposed to Kyl-Lieberman

The vote was re-scheduled so he couldn't vote. Get over it already! I know his stands. Take up the vote schedule with Reid.

Well, if you are right, Obama has been running for president for four years. I doubt that. But look at your hero Hillary! She has been running for president for decades.

And what has Hillary to show for her Senate career? What key chairmanships? What chairmanships at all? What bills did she sponsor (as opposed to co-sponsor)? She has a lack luster performance as a Senator. Voted FOR IWR. Voted FOR Kyl-Lieberman. Voted FOR bankruptcy bill.

Hillary has been running for president for a long time. The charitable conclusion is she sucked up to the establishment in order to curry favor. The less charitable conclusion is that she is establishment through and through anyway. In any case, what you see is what you get with Hillary: more of the same divisive politics that has torn our country and our party apart.

[earthlover]

18. hillary will not win...so Obama would not be helped

While Obama would help Hillary's ticket, it is more likely that Obama will get the nomination. Hillary as VP would NOT help Obama.

[maddiejoan]

30. Then I guess Obama

is shit out of luck.

He jumped the gun on running before ready.

Sad. He might've made a good President one day.

[earthlover]

33. Too bad about hillary....she never would been elected president some day

Come off it! Are you still trying to sell that bag of goods that Obama is not ready? Why? Because you say so? Oh...I see!

Obama is not shit out of luck. He is challenging Hillary's supposedly inevitable lead. Hillary's campaign is in the midst of reorganization because of panic mode.

I would say it more likely that Hillary is out of luck. You can use the shit word all you want...doesn't make you have any more verbal acuity than a doughnut.

[Buzz Clik]

3. We all know what fine presidents Al Gore, Hubert Humphrey, Fritz Mondale, and Spiro Agnew made.

[Der Blaue Engel]

5. Well we would have known what a fine president Al Gore would make

had the Supreme Court not committed treason. :shrug:

[Buzz Clik]

14. Sorta gets away from the concept that the sitting VP is a shoo-in for the next prez.

[Der Blaue Engel]

21. Not at all

The sitting VP in that case WAS a shoo-in for the next President. Then the treason occurred. :shrug:

[revolve]

4. Well I hope you vote for your canidates in 09

Because im voting for mine in 08

[Kucinich4America]

7. Not only that, but if Hillary "wins" in 2008, it means the fix is in PERMANENTLY

And there will be a Bush "elected" in 2016. So then Obama would have to change his name to Clinton in order to even be eligible for 2028, by which time Chelsea will probably be installed as nominee anyway.

Don't think it can happen?

Let's NOT find out. Stop this "dynasty" bullshit now.

[davidinalameda]

9. what dynasty bullshit

Hillary happens to be one of the most qualified candidates this year

who cares if she was married to a two-term president

she's all the more qualified since she was married to a two-term president

[bigdarryl]

11. going up in the general election shes the least quilified out of Rudy Romney or even Huckaberry

the experience thing will hunt the democratic party in the general election if she is the nominee.

[maddiejoan]

16. She's less qualified than Rudy??

A mayor?

[earthlover]

20. a mayor is an executive position....

the last time Hillary was the HEAD of anything was way back when she was president of the Young Republicans!

I think this experience thing is absurd. All of our candidates have enough experience to be president! The real issue is who is the best to lead us into a new direction.

[Kucinich4America]

26. As much as I despise Rudy 9u11iani

As mayor of NYC, he was leading an executive branch serving a larger population than Bill Clinton (or Mike Huckabee) did as governor of Arkansas.

And besides, I can't discount mayors, since I'm supporting a former mayor myself :evilgrin:
(NOT Rudy!)

[maddiejoan]

28. Kucinich is has far more than mayoral exp.

plus he knows what the Constitution is.

[earthlover]

32. kucinich would make a great president !

What a change from a hillary presidency.

I honestly think kucinich is more electable than hillary. I have totally given up on Hillary winning in the general. I think it is Democrat who have given up on Kucinich. If he was actually nominated, he could win. It would take some work. But, if nothing else, his nomination would give some definition to our party.

[bigdarryl]

13. going up in the general election shes the least qualified out of Rudy Romney or even Huckleberry

the experience thing will hunt the democratic party in the general election if she is the nominee.

[Kucinich4America]

25. How in the blue blazes of fuck is Hillary "most qualified"???

She's got 6 years in the senate. Period. You can argue that against Obama or Edwards, but it hardly makes her "most qualified".

[earthlover]

34. self-delete

[KingFlorez]

10. Nonsense

There will never be another Bush elected in this country, not after what the current one did. There is no dynasty, we have free elections.

[Kucinich4America]

27. Sure we have free elections.

Tell that to the people of Florida and Ohio.

[Catchawave]

17. Edwards/Obama '08

Can produce a very promising Obama 2016, and he'll still only be in his 50's.

[red2blue]

22. If there is one thing we can all agree on ....

We will all be proud to say President Obama in 2016.

I know none of you poll watchers will agree with me.

However i see Edwards/Obama in 08.

[ginchinchili]

23. If Biden wins the nomination, Obama would be his logical choice for VP.

That way Obama, a smart inexperienced guy, could learn from Biden, a smart experienced guy, and Obama would almost certainly be president in 2016. In fact, I think Andrew is right on the money. It's the most logical thing for the Democratic Party and our nation, and Biden is a very logical guy.

[Tactical Progressive]

24. You are right. Obama could be VP in 2016, not President

Eight more years in Washington, assuming he makes something of them, should just about give him the credentials for a VP.

That's what he was on track for, before he turned around and spit in his party's face. Obama hasn't the credentials, hasn't earned, nor does he deserve by any calculus a real shot at the Presidency in 2008. I think his low-class performance in this election cycle could well throw him off the Democratic fast-track.

His 2016 shot at a VP nomination and consequently 2024 Presidential run might already be over. I personally think he's earned such a fate.