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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:46 PM
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I have a sneaky felling Edwards is going to win this primary
If you look at the Iowa poll numbers for second choice candidate he is number one and as a southerner i think he can carry some southern states
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:47 PM
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1. After listening to Obama's uninspiring speech just now, he'll definitely move up.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:48 PM
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2. COME ON!!! his speech wasn't that bad I liked it
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:50 PM
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4. Totally boring. His premises are the same old same old, but he didn't give any specific solutions
I kept waiting for him to get the crowd excited but it never happened.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:50 PM
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6. There's nothing Obama could have said to inspire you.
So let's not pretend.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:51 PM
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7. That's kinda what I was thinkin'
Edited on Sun Dec-09-07 03:52 PM by VolcanoJen
I'm fired up... ready to go!

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1243524714&channel=353512430 (thanks wndycty!!!)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:52 PM
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8. His Keynote Address inspired me
That was the last time he sounded inspiring, and I've been waiting ever since for him to live up to that standard but I guess it ain't happening. Maybe he changed speech writers, who knows.

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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:56 PM
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11. You're adorable.
Trying to spread all that hate.

The people in the stadium sure thought it was inspiring...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:58 PM
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12. Awww.. a Clinton supporter didn't like a great speech... aww...
Poor baby.


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VA_08er Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:48 PM
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3. ummm...
how'd that work out in 2004?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:50 PM
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5. He won
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:53 PM
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9. Loved him, supported him...
... but he didn't win, he came in second to Kerry.

It may as well have been a win though, and I was so proud of Edwards.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 03:54 PM
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10. Kerry won Iowa in 2004, not Edwards
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:01 PM
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13. feeling,
Some words you simply have to spell correctly.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:59 PM
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14. Yep. Red state Iowa is not ready for change
I really really hope that this is the last year that Iowa and NH get to determine OUR nominee. How can we get Dean to listen?
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:18 AM
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20. our maybe Iowa democrats
Dont like the national media telling them who to vote for. Maybe they will make up their own minds and find the candidate they agree with and trust that they will be listened to.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 05:18 PM
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15. I feel it!
Oh I really hope you're right!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 06:50 PM
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16. Edwards' team in Iowa is pretty awesome. Could be a real good night for him
on January 3rd.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 07:33 PM
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17. Long haul
to say anything for sure. For Edwards to get Iowa the movement between warring Hillary and Obama has to go pretty well for Edwards. That is something I would know absolutely nothing about except that it can't be easy since those supporters might not be so impartial to Edwards this time around. Obama's supporters want Hillary in third. Hillary supporters will do anything to hurt Obama. The ugly advantage then goes to Edwards. His campaign will have to certainly be proved to be brilliant and his performance superior to the others to win thus proving- if not to the hostile media- exactly what he wanted to do in Iowa.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 09:38 AM
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19. Why would Obama's campaign want Hillary in third place?
We know that Obama wants to win Iowa, preferably by a clear margin.

But if you are Obama what you really want is to make it clear that you are the ONLY candidate who can can stop Hillary winning the nomination. So from Obama's point of view, the best result is to come in first place with Hillary second.

Obama has a strategic interest in making this a two-horse race as soon as possible.

If Obama and Edwards are both doing OK then it might actually help Hillary, because it means that Hillary will be able to win primaries in States where less than 40% of Democrats are supporting her.


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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:57 AM
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25. There can be only one
Yes, this is the first scenario where the field is reduced to Clinton and non-Clinton, but in Edwards' strategy there was an implication that going head to meant either Obama or Hillary could fall apart. I suppose your case makes more sense in this menage a trois so far. In any event the voters shape the course of these events and the GOP media tries to shift and reshape them. Obama's attacks on Edwards', the same style as with Hillary, indicate that he is trying to jettison the second choice life line Edwards has between them now that he may not be needing them. It appears finally that the Obama team is fighting hard to win in ways it had to. Nothing seems so uncomfortable or awkward as a Dem going on the attack, and some back-handed credit should be given to the miserable mud skills shown by all the candidates. That would be entirely another way of looking at the "dirt" in something of a positive(?) way?

I think all the candidates are particularly vulnerable at this particular moment, this snapshot. If that continues into the early states we could well be seeing the non-Clinton candidates either trying to freeze Hillary out of the limelight or hammering each other into oblivion while Hillary manages a grim overall triumph. That latter scenario would please the GOP no end. I guess an improbable but possible fourth place for Hillary is the only thing likely to cause her immediate harm followed by a thumping in NH. As to what will happen I will lay no money on it, but expect things to change right up to the close in Iowa. Really smart, 20/20 hindsight people wait and pontificate after. That is when I will tell everyone how it all happened as it must.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 09:14 AM
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18. I feel the same way
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:22 AM
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21. I have a sneaky "felling "
he's not going to win.
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:50 AM
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22. Plus, his Iowa supporters have more prior caucus experience
and are more likely to show up and participate.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:53 AM
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23. America could do a lot worse-
As we have, many, many times in the past.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:59 AM
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24. "Senator Gone" will not pick up any Southern states.
Heck... he couldn't have won re-election as Senator from NC.
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