Biden: "I think this leads right into the White House."

[gateley]

snip

Mukasey's Justice Department and the CIA's internal watchdog announced Saturday they would conduct a joint inquiry into the matter. That review will determine whether a full investigation is warranted.

"He's the same guy who couldn't decide whether or not waterboarding was torture and he's going to be doing this investigation," said Biden, who noted that he voted against making Mukasey the country's top law enforcer.

"I just think it's clearer and crisper and everyone will know what the truth ... if he appoints a special counsel, steps back from it," said Biden, D-Del.

"I think the easiest, straightest thing to do is to take it out of the political realm, appoint a special prosecutor and let them decide, and call — call it where it is. Is there a criminal violation? If there is, proceed. If not, don't," the senator said.

snip

The House and Senate intelligence committees also are investigating.

The White House was scrambling over the weekend to determine who in the administration knew about the tapes and when. That includes Harriet Miers, who was a deputy White House chief of staff in 2003. Miers became White House counsel in early 2005; she left that job in January.

"I think that Hayden is not to be the judge of whether or not his ordering or his condoning the destroying of the tapes was lawful," Biden said. "It appears as though there may be an obstruction of justice charge here, tampering with evidence, and destroying evidence. And this is — I think this is one case where it really does call for a special counsel. I think this leads right into the White House. There may be a legal and rational explanation, but I don't see any on the face of it."

Bush "has no recollection" of hearing about either the tapes' existence or their destruction before being briefed about it Thursday morning, White House press secretary Dana Perino has said. She also said the president has "complete confidence" in Hayden's handling of the matter

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071209/ap_on_go_co/cia_videotapes

[saltpoint]

1. Governments are a lot better with far better people running them.

Biden is one such.

[acmavm]

2. Oh puh-lease. EVERTHING leads directly into the White House. Duh.

[1corona4u]

4. Do you actually have anything of value to add...

or are you just all about hit & run post? Seems to be a pattern with you in your last few post...

[acmavm]

10. Don't you worry about my posts. And my point is of value. EVERYTHING

DOES LEAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

Whine why don't ya.

edit: To point out that you're just being pissy because I brought up what a whore old Joe is to the credit card companies.

WAHHHHHH!!!!

edit: Congress investigating credit card rates


Millions use plastic to make ends meet this time of year not knowing there could be a shocking surprise as they work to pay-off that debt.

Michigan Senator Carl Levin said, "Folks who pay on time, pay at least the minimum amount due and wake up and find out their interest rate has gone through the roof."

Even though there are no late, or missed payments cardholders can still see interest rates jump by 15-percent or more.

It can happen with little warning and seemingly for no reason.

http://www.wbirtv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=52029

Don't see old Joe jumping on this one, do ya? Why? Because he's their biggest enabler and defender.

[1corona4u]

16. LOL...you are so...

Irrelevant.

[acmavm]

18. So is Joe.

[gateley]

8. Yeah, you're right. We all know that, but it's nice to hear someone in Biden's

position come right out and say it, rather than just allude to it.

[KittyWampus]

9. and there are times it's politically/legally viable to pursue them. This is one such instance

[hisownpetard]

11. But how many politicians have come out and said so? Uh, none?

[acmavm]

12. Oh crap, if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck...

Some things are not rocket science. And some candidates are as bad as the clowns in the White House. And some are bad for other reasons.

There are only two democrats in this race and one is not ever going to get the nomination. Biden is NOT the other one.

[gateley]

14. Then don't vote for him in your primary. Seems simple to me.

:shrug:

[acmavm]

15. Did you think I would??????????????

[1corona4u]

19. Who cares what you do....

I know I don't...

[acmavm]

20. And you think that bothers me? Think again. You don't even support

someine with a snowballs chance in hell of winning the election.

If my politics make me 'irrelevant' yours makes you a loser.

[1corona4u]

21. LOL...and neither do you...

neener neener...LOL...

[acmavm]

23. Great comeback! I am so not impressed.

Good bye. I'll be back to rub your nose in all this when after Joe loses the nomination.

[1corona4u]

24. I'll bookmark the page now...

[gateley]

22. I just don't understand why you're putting so much effort into this -- if you

don't like him, why waste your time?

[1corona4u]

17. Blah, Blah, Blah.....

Yawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn.........

[ginchinchili]

26. Biden is drawing a line in the sand.

But he needs all Democrats to get behind him on it, even you. You obviously don't like the man, but that doesn't change the fact that he is the most qualified candidate in this race, Democrat or Republican. None of your ankle-biting can puncture a hole in that fact.

[PatSeg]

29. And Biden doesn't bluff

He doesn't make idle threats and Bush knows that. Biden has done his homework and who knows how many experts he has backing him up.

[acmavm]

30. Bullshit. He's not even a dem. He's a corporatist just like Hils and Barrie.

A bigger fraud and a phony can only be found in the republican field.

Get behind Biden. What a damn joke.

[1corona4u]

3. I bet Bush & Co are starting to sweat...

[K Gardner]

5. Speaking of things leading to the White House.. has anyone been listening

to Late Edition? That neocon Kyl just said that "The President decides what interrogation techniques can or cannot be used". The look on Feinstein's face was priceless. He refused to say if waterboarding was used and again refused to define waterboarding as torture.

[PatSeg]

25. Good grief!

What a ridiculous thing to say, but then Bush IS "the Decider". The world has gone completely nuts.

[kentuck]

6. Oh Goodie! The CIA gets to investigate itself..?

Wonder what they will find that they did wrong??

[KittyWampus]

7. he's calling for special council, a different kettle of fish!

[jillan]

13. That is exactly what Biden said on George Snuffy this morning - how ridiculous it is to let Mukasey

in charge of investigating this administration.

[K Gardner]

27. Yanno, even Nixon had the damned balls to resign.. n/t

[PatSeg]

28. And the good sense

Bush has no sense whatsoever.