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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:25 AM
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For all of those who were so outraged over Hillary's "put on" southern accent a while back
you should have heard Oprah this morning on the news when she was getting ready for the big EVENT in South Carolina. I swear, if I hadn't seen her on the TV picture, I never would have realized whose voice it was I was hearing....talk about putting on an artificial southern accent. What a circus!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:28 AM
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1. Clinton is the an actual candidate, Oprah isn't /nt
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:34 AM
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5. Are you so sure about that?
that Oprah isn't?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:46 AM
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9. What in the hell difference does that make ???
oh I forgot....we pan Hillary for what ever she does and we kiss HIS ASS.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:51 PM
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31. I don't care about the issue one way or another. I am just pointing out the differerence
There are plenty of substantive reasons to go after the candidates other than this

but the fact remains, any of the Democratic candidates are far superior to the republican ones



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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:30 AM
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2. That's gonna hurt Oprah in the polls
Edited on Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 AM by BeyondGeography
:freak:
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:31 AM
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3. Just tell me this: Did she finally make any substantive case for Obama?
Or was it just more of "He's the one."
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:46 AM
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8. I think she trying to make a case for herself. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:32 AM
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4. Clinton, to be fair, was not doing anything other than ACTIVELY putting on an accent.
And her audience KNEW it. It wasn't a secret, fachrissake. And she didn't do it terribly well, but she tried like hell, and that is what was endearing about the exercise, even though, for some stupid reason, the REPUBLICANS got all excited about it. She charmed her audience because she made an EFFORT. `

If Oprah wants to sling the soul, let her. Who gives a shit? Perhaps she's trying to find common ground. Yee haw, whoop-di-do.

And I speak as someone who is not a particular Oprah fan.

The SC accent, though, is rather unique. It's not the same as other parts of the country. It's a trick to get it right.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:45 AM
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6. I agree. Hillary's was sincere and fit the moment. Oprah's is bullshit to get votes. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:30 AM
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13. If she wants to 'soul it up' so what, though. Not everyone who attended those
Springsteen concerts voted for Kerry, either.

I think it's 'nothing but a thing' that Oprah is doing this. If it sways people who wouldn't otherwise vote for Obama, well, they're stupid sheep who are easily led, and if they're all that stupid, they'll probably forget to go to the polls.

I think getting upset about this endorsement is just a waste of time.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:45 AM
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7. Hillary said it was put on.....
I guess people haven't heard someone come on and say some of the words in a fake accent. But then when Hillary does anything, anything at all the other candidate's supporters mess them selves trying to pan her.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:49 AM
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10. Yup, and that only shows that at least Hillary is sincere. Oprah is one big stage act.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:14 AM
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11. Oprah does have some southern roots. However, I agree
that she emphasized an accent she normally does not manifest.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:33 PM
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25. I am a Long Islander. There are times my Lawng I-lant accent slips out. Usually,
my diction is much more proper. Often people are surprised when they find out I'm from LI cause it doesn't sound like it.

Usually.

Sometimes, I slip into it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:00 PM
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28. I lived long enough in the deep south to do that as well...
with a long-buried southern accent--even listening to a local Atlanta newscast and hearing the accents coming through the airport is enough to induce it... In those instances, it is subconscious.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:28 AM
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12. Oh wow Oprah will NEVER get the nomination now
Oh wait . . .
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:38 AM
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14. Um, Oprah grew up in the Deep South. Hillary grew up in Illinois.
As any Southerner knows, the accent is never far away from the surface when you're back "home". What's Clinton's excuse?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:43 AM
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17. I grew up in the South
and my accent changes whenever I talk to my relatives. So I have no problem with Oprah's accent.

I don't have any problem with Clinton saying that she's going to try a Southern accent in a good humored way.

In fact, I don't have a problem with accents. I've lived in too many different places for that.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:54 AM
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18. I have relatives from the Deep South, Europe, AND the Far East
Edited on Sun Dec-09-07 11:56 AM by ClarkUSA
And I understand completely. :-)

Unfortunately, this OP is wholly representative of the pervasive Clintonian bile directed at Obama on DU these days. I hope we'll soon have a nominee
and this type of mean-spirited silliness will stop.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:36 PM
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26. Hell, I grew up on the South Side of Chicago. I speak slightly different accents
if I'm talking to white folk or black folk, and I don't even notice. I didn't even realize it until I had a girlfriend who asked why I sounded black when we went in a Harold's.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:59 AM
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19. Oprah made her fortune talking a totally different accent the last 30 years in Chicago
Now all of a sudden she's Southern again? lol
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:32 PM
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23. You've obviously never known anyone from a different part of the country.
People learn to speak the accents around them. Drop a Georgian in San Francisco, and come back ten years later. He'll probably sound just like a native Californian, though he might still have a trace. If he's highly educated or has a job that requires him to speak frequently, he'll almost certainly be indistinguishable from his peers (unless he decides his accent is a part of his identity, in which case he'll take pains to preserve it, and might actually amplify it).

But take him back home, have him do so much as buy a pack of cigarettes from a convenience store, and almost immediately he'll be talking like he never left. Take him back to Frisco, and he'll drop the Georgian accent just as quick. And he won't even notice. Call him on it, and he'll either laugh and say he didn't notice, or get irritated and deny it.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:40 AM
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15. Maybe she's puttin gon an accent when she speaks Midwestern ! nt
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:42 AM
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16. Jealousy from the Hillbots continue. Pretty pathethic. nm
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:21 PM
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21. I remain uncommiitted. Just pointing out Oprah brought out her
southern roots via a pronounced accent is not an attack, just an observation. Many public speakers adjust their mannerisms to match those of the audience. It may be a good thing to do. Time will tell.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:05 PM
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20. Her cadence reminded me of Martin Luther King, Jr. This may be a huge
mistake for both of them - that is my gut reaction. It trivializes him and makes her look "over the top" and out of her depth.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:27 PM
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22. She was born in Mississippi. It wasn't fake.
My mother grew up in rural Maryland, then moved out to California after she got her Ph.D. She speaks perfectly standard, bland American English. When she's in the company of people from the Carolinas, West Virginia, rural Maryland, and the like, she almost immediately sounds like an absolute hillbilly--and always denies doing it. Funny thing is, even when she's talking with people from the same region who have similarly obscured their childhood accents, within ten minutes both will have returned to their Appalachian dialects. People very easily switch accents without even knowing it.

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:24 PM
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29. Say hi to your mom for me
I grew up in Alabama, then lived 7 years in Massachusetts, then over twenty years in Maryland before moving to California.

I loved Maryland and miss it very much.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:33 PM
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24. I wasn't "outraged" as you
so tantalizing state it. Accents are great..do we have to talk the same all the time? Especially when a lot of us have been around the country and in even the world?

I see you're "getting tired of the Obama/Oprah circus"..too bad it's getting your goat.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:37 PM
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27. This is like Bush's fake Texas Twang.
Hey dad you remember when Mom told me that if I kept making those monkey faces, one day my face would get stuck like that? Yes Son I do. Well you know my fake Texas Twang? Yes son. Listen to this. Nooklar, damn it! Nooklar. Nooklar. Dad the Joint Chiefs won't let me go nooklar until I can say it right. Nooklar, damn it! Nooklar. Nooklar, damn it! Nooklar.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:53 PM
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30. Were you outraged at Clinton too?
Edited on Sun Dec-09-07 02:27 PM by Forkboy
If not, why does this bother you? :shrug:

Your reasoning cuts both ways. Either both bother you or neither one bothers you. It can't be one of each. :)
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:52 PM
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32. I was thinking the same thing...
when she began to speak...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 05:01 PM
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33. I actually hate when she and Obama do that too
I don't like southern accents. But I absolutely hate fake southern accents.
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