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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:39 PM
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Watch out for McCain...
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 01:40 PM by SaveElmer
I'm telling you...he is going to be the beneficiary of Huckabee's rise...




Clinton Stabilizes in New Hampshire, McCain Surges

Political Wire has seen early results from a new New Hampshire poll that shows Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead stabilizing after losing ground to Sen. Barack Obama in recent months.

On the GOP side, Mitt Romney continues to lead but finds Sen. John McCain closing in rapidly.

The poll will be formally released later today.



http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/12/05/clinton_stabilizes_in_new_hampshire_mccain_surges.html
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:41 PM
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1. That could be a problem if people remember the old McCain...
The new McCain is pretty whacked.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:47 PM
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2. Maybe so.. but I don't see him as the nominee..
McCain is "shop worn" merchandise.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:54 PM
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3. I don't know Tell...
I think Huckabee is a bot of a flash in the pan...but his rise is going to cripple Romney and Guiliani...McCain may get it by default...he has been steadily gaining...

I think he will win both New Hampshire and South Carolina...
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:10 PM
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4. Very interesting dynamic..
like a spinning wheel, where she Stops nobody knows.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:22 PM
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7. And if he does all you'll hear about from the mainstream whores
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 02:26 PM by Tactical Progressive
is what a comeback kid McCain is. They'll push him and his remarkable return with every bit of energy they have. They love him.

Expect to hear about how the surge is 'working', even though it's really their bullshit about the surge working that's working, and how McCain stood strong against terra.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:39 PM
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8. Mittens is about 30 points ahead in NH--McCain will take second place.
But he won't win SC. Mittens or Fred will.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:12 PM
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5. I know you're going to...
think this is crazy. But when the dust settles, I think it will be Biden vs. McCain in the general election.

-P
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:18 PM
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6. To me, each of the Publicans has only a small amount of strength and appeal
Guliani - 'strong on terra'
Romney - smooth and handsome professional politician
Thompson - good ole boy knows just how to handle things
McCain - war hero who bucks the Republicans
Huckabee - friendly guy
Paul - uhh, crazy

I don't believe much of their promoted positive attributes to begin with. Rudy as 9/11 hero? Closer to the opposite if you ask me. Thompson? Good ole empty head without a script to read off of. McCain - cantankerous lapdog to Bush mafia. Etc

But even if I take their manufactured personnas at face value, none of the character attributes seem especially true or deep in any of them. Like maybe 10-15% deep. I think if you could add up all of the best points of each of the Publican candidates and put them into a single person, I still don't think you'd have more than 60-70% of a good candidate. That's how bad this field is.

They just have nothing, even when added all together. Just a little piece, here and a little piece there. That's why Publicans are bouncing around from candidate to candidate. First it was McCain, then Romney, then Guliani, then Thompson was gonna come in and provide that strong, actor-level good-ole-boy leadership ... ffffffutz, then back to Guliani, now Huckabee, with McCain coming back up from the outside when Huck bombs.

Holy shit. I've realized for a long time that Publicans are just mean, empty-headed sheep, who, if they're not pulled in just the right direction have no direction, but this is the clearest example I've ever seen of that sheepish need to follow. They'll jump at anything in the desperate hope for political salvation.

I've never seen them so pathetic in my entire lifetime. And no, I don't feel a speck of sympathy. Their party should remain in this state for the next twenty years for what they've done over the last twenty, though I doubt it will.

I'm enjoying it, but I am quite amazed.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:46 PM
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9. They can poll all they want
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 02:46 PM by hughee99
McCain spent the last few years pissing off far to many in the repuke base to ever win the nomination. When the nomination is decided, he'll be nothing more than an "also-ran".
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