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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:44 AM
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Clinton's endorsement list debatable
Clinton's endorsement list debatable


By SEANNA ADCOX, Associated Press Writer Wed Dec 5, 3:12 AM ET

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton's support from South Carolina's black religious leaders may not be quite as extensive as her campaign suggests.

Clinton got a boost last week when she shared a South Carolina stage with dozens of supporters, accepting what organizers said were endorsements from nearly 90 ministers in the state. But an Associated Press review of an endorsement list supplied by the New York senator's campaign found that some of the backers were affiliated with religious ministries and outreach groups rather than churches, some were wives of ministers, two were church elders and at least two were not members of the churches listed beside their names.

All told, about 50 different groups were represented, rather than more than 80 congregations as initially implied, the review found.

Clinton spokesman Zac Wright said the campaign never claimed the endorsements represented separate congregations and knew all along that some came from the same organization.

"It shows diversity if you have both a senior pastor of a church and also a minister over the women's ministry, for example," he said Tuesday.

In this early primary state where nearly half of Democratic voters are black, endorsements from black church leaders can carry significant weight.

Barack Obama's Democratic presidential campaign announced its own list of endorsements from black clergy in the state Tuesday, releasing a list of what it said were 122 senior pastors and three associate pastors of different churches and ministries, including four people it noted as retired.

The AP is reviewing that list.

The Clinton campaign initially said more than 80 ministers from the northern part of the state were in the room when the endorsements were announced Nov. 27, but it could not identify everyone on the stage with Clinton. Organizers for the event said 88 were there. The New York senator said later that day she was told the number may have climbed to nearly 100.

"There was more support there than what we could have anticipated, so it took a little longer to get the finite list," Wright said Tuesday. "Everyone signed in as a minister endorsing Hillary."

After being asked for names of the ministers, Clinton's campaign first released a partial list of 44 names. A day later, a list of 82 names was released. That included one name that was repeated twice, several misspelled names, churches listed in the wrong city or with an incorrect name, and a dozen people listed without a church affiliation.

The campaign released revised listings Monday, supplying church affiliations for those left blank and correcting affiliations for others, trimming the list to 81 names.

A review Tuesday of the sign-in sheets showed supporters initially signed separate endorsement forms, giving their names, addresses, phone numbers and occupations. But after those ran out, Wright said, they began signing a single line on a page. Many signed only their names, without affiliations. Some were difficult to read. Some signed both forms. Wright said that's why a complete, accurate list was so difficult to provide.

Wright said the campaign will be "more prepared for exceeding expectations" for any future endorsements.

Many of those who signed the full forms noted they had jobs other than "minister," including a real estate agent, accountant, graphic designer and store owner. One showed dual jobs as "minister of the gospel/maintenance mechanic."

The revisions note two people on the list are ministers at a church that has congregation members in South Carolina, but is located in Asheville, N.C. — 50 miles from the state line.

Among the earlier discrepancies was a minister identified as Freddy Foster Jr. with Fairview Christian Methodist Episcopal Church in Chesnee. But Fairview's real minister said Foster is not even a member there, although his parents were. Clinton's campaign said Foster attended the event but accidentally signed in as a minister.

Isaac McJimpsey Jr. signed in as a minister of Evangel Cathedral of Spartanburg, but a secretary at the church said none of its records showed even a visit by a person with that name. On Monday, Clinton's campaign said McJimpsey was a minister at Bridge Builders Church in Duncan. When no listing was found by a church of that name, the campaign said Tuesday that McJimpsey leads the nonprofit Impact Ministries.

McJimpsey did not return a telephone call for comment.

The wives of at least two pastors were on the campaign's list, including Colleen Brown of Cleveland Chapel Baptist in Spartanburg. Wright said if wives were listed, they're ordained ministers. But the Rev. Timothy Brown said his wife is not ordained.

"If they're an active minister and part of a ministry, their churches', their faith traditions' rules about ordinations and ordination practices are within the church," Wright said.

New Birth Kingdom of Spartanburg seemed to have the most representatives endorsing Clinton. After the revisions, the campaign's "minister endorsements" list has eight people from New Birth, including its lead pastor, the Rev. Sharome Gentry.

Clinton and her Democratic rivals, especially Obama, are courting South Carolina's critical black vote. In 2004, nearly half the party's primary voters were black. An AP-Pew Research Poll this week found Clinton breaking even with Obama among black voters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_po/clinton_ministers_1
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:49 AM
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1. Where's your Obama logo, "Hope"?
Welcome. You'll fit right in with DU's ObamaNation.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:54 AM
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4. Thanks!
Feel free to help me how to upload a logo because I`m new here.

Thanks in advance.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:55 AM
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6. Psst - that's not Obama's friend there
:D

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:03 AM
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8. Ok, I managed to upload a logo.
:bounce:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:40 AM
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12. Heck, if you can change the subject by picking on someone's tagline...
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 09:40 AM by zulchzulu
...good for you.

Yes, another set of lies from the Clintonberg...oh, the humanity.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:11 AM
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17. Horrors!! They said 88!! It was only 81!! What HUGH Morans!!
:rofl:
Someday, ObamaNation will discover "issues" as something to post about.
Until then: rumors of cat killings and critiques of arithmetic.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:18 AM
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19. More like 50 instead of 80...did you read the article?
"All told, about 50 different groups were represented, rather than more than 80 congregations as initially implied, the review found."

What's being off by 30 groups among friends...

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:30 AM
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21. I did. You ObamaNationals hate that, don't you?
Organizers for the event said 88 were there.
The campaign released revised listings Monday, supplying church affiliations for those left blank and correcting affiliations for others, trimming the list to 81 names.

88 - 81 = 7. :boring:
The ObamaNation continues to whine about arithmetic, avoiding issues at all costs.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:51 AM
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2. You need to cut down to 4-5 paragraphs of copyrighted material
Just so you know. And welcome to DU :hi:
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:55 AM
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5. Thanks again!
Ok, I will think about it the next time.Sorry.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:54 AM
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3. That does it...I'm voting for Obama.
:crazy:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:58 AM
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7. "they never claimed..."
how many times do they utter that fucking phrase a day?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:21 AM
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9. But, Dems have been promised for years that TeamClinton never makes mistakes.
Only OTHER Dems make campaign mistakes or misspeak, but certainly not the genius Clintons.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:33 AM
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10. True BLM - but consider the seriousness
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 09:34 AM by karynnj
she has yet to do anything as malicious or as indicative of major character flaws as misreading a prepared sentence and skipping a 2 letter word - has she?

:sarcasm:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:40 AM
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11. Dropping a pronoun gets a scolding from Hillary - dropping your pants in the oval office
gets a spirited defense.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:44 AM
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13. more hypocrisy.
Clinton is held to a higher standard. Many of you on DU have attacked Clinton for the most twisted, distorted lies (like this post). And yet you still continue to suggest that her "scolding" of Kerry for a stupid joke makes her the devil.

So, only she can make mistakes. Double standard.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:54 AM
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14. What she and her henchmen did to Kerry from 2003-2006 was deplorable
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 10:02 AM by blm
and no Democrat should be happy with that level of betrayal from within.

Anyone who was happy that TeamClinton saved us from an open government Kerry presidency in 2005 isn't a Democrat to me - they are secrecy and privilege protectors.

And it wasn't JUST the scolding, was it?

Historian Douglas Brinkley:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill's TIMELY defense of Bush in summer of 2004 book tour:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville Family Values on election night:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

Hillary betrayed Kerry long before she personally stuck this knife in his back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

HYPOCRISY? Hillary decrying any Dem on Dem attack is a horrific joke.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:01 AM
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15. What are you talking about?
Tell me something: when you unpack each of these posts they are nothing.

If Kerry wanted to have a recount--it would have had to be disclosed and open. A phone call to your wife does nothing to stop that. And Clinton is NOT Carville. Clinton supported Kerry.

You are using distortions in innuendos to suggest this vast conspiracy of the Clintons to keep Bush in the white house? BS. Really!? BS.

You have deemed Clinton Beelzebub based on flimsy freeper evidence.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:12 AM
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18. Comprehension could be your friend.
You don't GET that Brinkley is a noted historian with heavy access to Kerry campaign and observed for over a year that backstabbing of the Clinton loyalists.

But he's a 'freeper' to you.

There WAS a recount in Ohio - by OHIO'S rules. Just in case that escaped your notice, too. Those rules were put in place by a heavily dominant Republican ruling regime in the years before, another tactic ignored and uncountered by McAuliffe's DNC.

Kerry was going to challenge provisional ballots - the Ohio campaign people reported there were 250,000 provisionals - Carville calls Matalin - WH calls Blackwell - Ohio Dems are told there are 150,000 provisional ballots - ballots that ONLY Blackwell controls.

You don't GET that Ohio Dems had a collapsed party infrastructure that was too weak at every level where the votes are allowed, cast and counted - and that had been a harsh reality since 1997. DNC let the RNC steal that election.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:22 AM
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20. I am all for tinfoil hats-
But tell me this: to what end? What was Hillary Clinton's goal to be all powerful enough to stop Kerry from the presidency? Tell me? So Bush could destroy democracy and raid the treasury?

And when you make these outrageous charges, look at her real record. Not the crap and inuendos posted about her.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Trust for Historic Preservation 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Children's Defense Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Association of University Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Organization for Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 91 percent in 2006.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 100 percent in 2005

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House).

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Public Health Association 80 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 84 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 88 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 83 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Committee for an Effective Congress 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 100 percent in 2005.

According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 80 percent of the Senators.

According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on social policy issues than 83 percent of the Senators.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Alliance for Retired Americans 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 92 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Bread for the World 100 percent in 2003-2004.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Partnership for the Homeless 100 percent in 2003-2004.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can...

She was promoting universal coverage before it was cool. Furthermore she helped to create the SCHIP program. And most importantly she was dead on in the debate the other week where she said political will was the most important thing needed to push health care reform through and we know without a doubt she has that.

She has fougt unrelentingly for a woman's right to choose as well as women's rights both domestically and abroad

Create a Strategic Energy Fund - Hillary has proposed a Strategic Energy Fund that would inject $50 billion into research, development and deployment of renewable energy, energy efficiency, clean coal technology, ethanol and other homegrown biofuels. Hillary's proposal would give oil companies a choice: invest in renewable energy or pay into the fund. Hillary's proposal would also eliminate oil company tax breaks and make sure that oil companies pay their fair share for drilling on public lands. Instead of sending billions of dollars to the Middle East for their oil, Hillary's proposal will create a new clean energy industry in America and create tens of thousands of jobs here.

Champion a Market-Based "Cap and Trade" Approach - Hillary supports a market-based, cap and trade approach to reducing carbon emissions and fight global warming. This approach was used successfully to limit sulfur dioxide and reduce levels of acid rain in the 1990s. By capping the amount of emissions in the environment and allowing corporations to buy and sell permits, this approach offers corporations a flexible, cost-efficient method to do their share to reduce emissions and combat global warming. The program will reduce emissions, drive the development of clean technologies, and create a market for projects that store carbon dioxide.

20% Renewable Electricity Standard by 2020 - Hillary believes we need to shift our reliance on high carbon electricity sources to low-carbon electricity sources by investing in renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind. As President, she'll work to require power companies to obtain 20 percent of their energy from renewable sources by 2020.

Make Federal Buildings Carbon Neutral - Hillary believes that the federal government should lead the way in reducing carbon emissions from buildings. Buildings account for 40 percent of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, and the federal government owns or leases more than 500,000. Hillary would require all federal buildings to steadily increase the use of green design principles, energy efficient technologies, and to generate energy on-site from solar and other renewable sources. By 2030, all new federal buildings and major renovations would be carbon neutral, helping to fight global warming and cutting the $5.6 billion that the federal government spends each year on heating, cooling and lighting.

Protecting Against Exposure to Toxic Chemicals - Hillary wants to make the products we use safer, especially for children. There are tens of thousands of chemicals used in the U.S. and hundreds of new chemicals introduced each year, but little health testing is conducted for many of them. Hillary would require chemical companies to prove that new chemicals are safe before they are put on the market, and would set more stringent exposure standards for kids. She would also create a "priority list" of existing chemicals and require testing to make sure they are safe. To improve our understanding of the links between chemicals and diseases like cancer, Hillary would create an "environmental health tracking network" that ties together information about pollution and chronic diseases.

Hillary's Record

In the White House, Hillary led efforts to make adoption easier, to expand early learning and child care, to increase funding for breast cancer research, and to help veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome who had too often been ignored in the past. She helped launch a national campaign to prevent teen pregnancy and helped create the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, which moved children from foster care to adoption more quickly and the number of children who have moved out of foster care into adoption has increased dramatically.

She was instrumental in designing and championing the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which has provided millions of children with health insurance. She battled the big drug companies to force them to test their drugs for children and to make sure all kids get the immunizations they need through the Vaccines for Children Program. Immunization rates dramatically improved after the program launched.

Hillary has been a leading member of the Environment and Public Works Committee since she was elected to the Senate. Today, she chairs the Superfund and Environmental Health Subcommittee and in that capacity has promoted legislation to evaluate and protect against the impact of environmental pollutants on people's health and clean up toxic waste.

Global warming and Clean Air
Spoken out forcefully about the need to tackle global warming in hearings, speeches, rallies and on the Senate floor and co-sponsored "cap and trade" legislation.
Worked to reduce air pollution that causes asthma and other respiratory diseases by writing and helping to pass new laws to clean up exhaust from school buses, and other diesel-powered equipment.
Supported legislation to reduce pollution from power plants, including harmful emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury, and carbon dioxide - emissions that contribute to poor air quality, smog, acid rain, global warming, and mercury contamination of fish.
Aggressively fought the Bush Administration's ill-advised attempts to weaken clean air laws.

Improving Water Quality and Protecting Drinking Water
Helped to overturn the Bush Administration's attempt to allow more arsenic in drinking water.
Cosponsored legislation to protect lakes, rivers and coastal waters by fighting the spread of destructive invasive species, such as the zebra mussel.
Helped ot pass new clean water laws, including measures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

Protecting Public Lands
Fought oil company efforts to pen the Artic Wildlife Refuge in Alask and Pacific and Atlantic coastal waters to drilling.
Cosponsored the Roadless Area Conservation Act, which prohibits road construction and logging in unspoiled, roadless areas of the National Forest System, and voted for additional funding and manpower to combat forest fires in the west.

Reducing Dangerous Chemicals and Cleaning Up Hazardous Waste
Supported legislation to restore the "polluter pays" principle by reinstating a chemical company fee to fund cleanups of highly contaminated "Superfund" waste sites.
Cosponsored the "kids-Safe Chemical Act," which requires chemical companies to provide health and safety before putting new chemicals in consumer products.
Proposed legislation to create an environmental health tracking network to enable us to better understand the impact of environmental hazards on human health and well-being.

Tackling the Toxic Legacy of 9/11
Pushed for health care benefits for first responders, residents and others whose health has been impacted from breathing the toxic dust and smoke in New York City after 9/11.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/8/20/134810/677

Hillary Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977. In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom she had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981. For much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so. During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years. Bill appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

Hillary Clinton chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992, where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

And a bit of stuff from the White House years:

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.<124> She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.<125> She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.<43> The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.<43> Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.<43> In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.<43> As First Lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House Conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997),<126> Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),<127> and Children and Adolescents (2000),<128> and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000)<129> and Philanthropy (1999).<130>

Hillary Clinton traveled to over eighty countries during this time,<131> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<132> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself.<133> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<134><135> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

"...Hillary Clinton traveled to over eighty countries during this time,<131> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<132> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself.<133> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<134><135> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries..."

More:
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/israe...
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/darfu...


The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
easures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:40 AM
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22. To what end? Hillary2008. And as a Dem supportive of secrecy and privilege of executive branch
neither Clinton would be interested in having an OPEN GOVERNMENT Democrat like John Kerry in the office.

BushInc was at its weakest point in Dec 1992 thanks to the efforts of Dems like Kerry and Gonzalez who uncovered and pursued IranContra, Iraqgate and BCCI. How did BushInc become stronger throughout Bill's presidency?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Bush2, 9-11, and this Iraq war should NEVER have happened.

Protecting secrecy and privilege should not be a Dem value - it interferes with and becomes an obstacle to EVERY OTHER ISSUE.

If Bill had valued truth and the historic record when he took office, the principles of BushInc would have been exposed and jailed and the GOP would never have made so many gains throughout the 90s - gains which PREVENTED universal healthcare and fair labor laws and environmental endeavors.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:02 AM
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16. Her Mendacity Should Land Her In Gitmo
SARCASM
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:31 AM
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23. Dear Hope And Change,
Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs.

Welcome to DU.

best,
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