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sss1977 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:32 AM
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Why isn't anyone talking about today's Democracy Now interview with Lou Dobbs?
I just finished watching it and was blown away! This is the kind of interviewing that is sorely missing from the mass media! Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez showed how professional journalism is done, and seeing it compared directly to Lou Dobbs was astoundingly dramatic. Not once did Amy or Juan resort to any kind of character attacks or name calling, and yet Lou fell back on it over and over again. Amy corrected herself multiple times in the broadcast, in contrast to Lou's complete omission of coming clean about things on his own broadcast. He continually rudely interrupted them. He strong-armed the discussion at every point.

In what world is it that Lou Dobbs has a massive audience and a resounding voice for his anti-immigration agenda, and the names of Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalaz are only even known by a small percentage?

Watch the interview for yourself here:
http://www.archive.org/details/dn2007-1204_vid

Or read the transcript:
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou

Here's one of the more choice excerpts after watching a clip from his show:

AMY GOODMAN: So, Lou, you said a third of the prison population are illegal aliens.

LOU DOBBS: Right.

AMY GOODMAN: The fact is, it’s something like 6% of prisoners in this country are non-citizens, not even illegal, just non-citizens.

LOU DOBBS: Right.

AMY GOODMAN: And then a percentage of that would not be documented.

LOU DOBBS: Well, it’s actually—I think it’s 26% in federal prison.

AMY GOODMAN: But you said of all prisoners.

LOU DOBBS: I said about—yes, but I—and I misspoke, without question. I was referring to federal prisoners.

AMY GOODMAN: But you didn’t say that, and so it leaves people with the impression—

LOU DOBBS: Well, I didn’t, but then I just explained it to you.

AMY GOODMAN: But you have a very large audience on CNN.

LOU DOBBS: I have a very large audience and a very bright audience.

AMY GOODMAN: And you told them that a third of the population of this country are illegal immigrants. 6% , which is under the population of immigrants—

LOU DOBBS: 6% , right.

AMY GOODMAN: —in this country, of prisoners—

LOU DOBBS: In state prisons.

AMY GOODMAN: —are immigrants.

LOU DOBBS: In state prisons. In state prisons.

AMY GOODMAN: No, 6% overall are immigrants. You said 30% are illegal.

LOU DOBBS: Well, I think we’ve established—we could sit here and say this all day, Amy. The fact is, the number is 26% in federal prisons. That’s what I was referring to. I did not—I misspoke when I said “prisons.” I was referring to the federal prisons, because that’s the federal crime: immigration. And that—

AMY GOODMAN: Have you made a correction on your show to say that 30% of—?

LOU DOBBS: I’m sure we have. We’ve reported—absolutely.

AMY GOODMAN: We didn’t see it.


And if this topic is already being discussed somewhere, I apologize. I looked and found nothing. I'm telling you this interview was fricking great! I wish I saw interviews like this done on a daily basis, or at minimum, at least weekly. With all the channels and time given to "news", you wouldn't think it would be asking too much.

Instead we get shit like today, where Bush gives a press conference, lying through his fucking ass, and no one in the room asks something along the lines of, "wait, are you serious?"
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:35 AM
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1. Wow.
Lou Dobbs is a gigantic asshole. Someone call Guinness.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:43 AM
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4. dang, I had a post that made him the asshole of the universe.
it was absolutely brilliant! my finest moment!
but it got losted somehow.
anyway.
yeh.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:38 AM
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2. I missed it, thanks for the link-
K&R
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:40 AM
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3. Thanks! nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:47 AM
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5. Excuse me, 26% of federal prisoners
are there for the crime of immigration?? That's cause for concern right there, a ridiculous waste of money.

And they're lying and using that number to slur the entire illegal population as a bunch of criminals? And don't care one whit about it. And most people will never know.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:59 AM
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6. There was a nice thread in GD on it
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sss1977 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:45 AM
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9. Ah, there we go
I see there wasn't much meat to the main post itself, but a good number of replies. It really was a damn good episode.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:06 AM
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7. That was a dynamite interview and all on the same day
that Keith Olbermann names him the worst person in the world not because of the interview but besides it.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:23 AM
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8. Thanks for the topic link, the link and the excerpt.
And Welcome to DU.

Rec'd and bookmarked.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:01 AM
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10. Thanks for that!
I watch Democracy Now on a regular basis, but I missed that interview. Lou Dobbs is like a god to a few of my friends, particularly regarding "illegals". I'll put this to good use!

pnorman
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:00 AM
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11. Dobbs has been twisting facts for his rants
for years. I never watch his show for information, just occasionally to see how low he will stoop to spread fear for profit.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:25 AM
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12. Well, they certainly grilled him.
But in comparison to Bill O'Rielly and Glen Beck, I think Lou seriously attempts to bring the truth forward. True he is not as good at it as Kieth Olbermann.

Lou was lambasting the bushes long before anyone thought it would be popular to point out the errors of this maladministration. I give Lou credit for having guts and not stopping the interview.

I like Goodman's interview style and I'm glad some of the errors of Lou's show have been pointed out but I still agree with him on the fact that illegal immigrants bring down wages and are being abused by large corporations.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:35 AM
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13. Dear Lou:
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 07:35 AM by Old Crusoe
We feel it's best you not go on the Goodman woman's show again, especially during this election cycle.

They have a tendency on DEMOCRACY NOW toward informed citizenship, which runs in sharp contrast to our overall focus on CNN, which is slavish genuflection to the mediocre.

Future interviews should be scheduled with "lighter" programming. Perhaps a gig on Regis' show. Something like that.

-- your producers
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:56 AM
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14. Ha!
That uppity Goodman woman!

:hi: :thumbsup:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:59 AM
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15. Durn tootin'. They send gals like that to college and they come back
and won't do the dishes and the house cleanin'.

It's a damned disgrace!

Hiya, babylonsister. Good to see you.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:04 AM
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16. Dobbs has been getting grilled even in the MSM - he seems to be totally losing it
on his now prime-time TV show; name-calling, sputtering, "lilly livered liberals".. he is mean and nasty and bigoted and people are finally starting to see it.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:07 AM
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17. There was a post on the greatest page yesterday and I rated it
up (as I did this post)! I think we need more posts like this rather than all this snark about Hillary or Obama etc... I don't even read those posts anymore. They are COMPLETELY demoralizing.
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