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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:47 PM
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Tinfoil time, It looks more and more like the NIC report was an end run around * and Cheney, because
they know * is going to hit Iran and they don't what to be any part of this again. I posted early last month that the mid point between Turkey day and the IA Caucus would be his last political opportunity to hit Iran(I said Dec 10).

Yesterday I was relieved that the report came out but today * brushed it off and basically said he was still going ahead as planned.

It is time for the whole Senate to take a very visible and public walk down to the WH and ask for his resignation and someone in the cabinet needs to invoke the question of his mental status, and ability to remain in office.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:50 PM
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1. I love the picture of the Senate walking down to the WH and asking for Bush's
resignation -- and Cheney's, too. That's what this country SHOULD be about!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:52 PM
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2. Me too ! Remember that scene in West Wing where Martin Sheen
walked down Pennsylvania Ave and sat outside ?the speaker's? office? If only...
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:55 PM
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5. I remember when the GOP Senators walked down to the Nixon WH. It was real. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:25 PM
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12. I don't recall that. That is VERY cool! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:24 PM
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10. No - I've never seen it! But the scene sounds cool... nt
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:52 PM
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3. So you still think a military strike is on the table?

The new agency I've heard say the report take the military option off the table and puts diplomacy on.

ABC and BBC
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:55 PM
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4. For psychopaths, nothing is ever off the table. nt
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:59 PM
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7. Nothing * said today and his visual clues made him look like a kid with his hand in a cookie jar. n/
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:57 PM
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6. Kyl/Lieberman was crafted because they knew the NIE was coming
they wanted to be sure they had another reason to go into Iran and the tacit approval of the congress.

Now that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has been designated a terrorist organization, Bush can authorize the military to go after them if he deems they are interfereing in Iraq.

While I know this seems a bit tinfoilhattish, you can't even give these crazed warmongers the benefit of a doubt on anything. Nothing that they do is without purpose...


I don't think he has any intention of backing off of Iran.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:24 PM
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11. Gads Windy.. I thought *I* was bad. But see, you make sense to me
and that's what's scary !! I'm putting my damned tinfoil hat back on.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:03 PM
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8. I just donned mine...
I see your point, but is a pesky little report gonna stop Cheney and the Podhoretz's of the world?

I just had a horrible thought as I'm typing this: Is something unthinkable about to go down in the next few months? Something that will again whip the country into a jingoistic frenzy?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:17 PM
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9. These neocons love chaos, it gives them time to regroup and redirect. n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:25 PM
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13. F*** the tinfoil hat. I'm gettin a foil bodysuit ! n/t
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:44 PM
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16. Do they love chaos so much that they cause it...
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 09:45 PM by TWriterD
or is chaos merely serendipitous to their new world order?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:28 PM
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14. But what justification could they possibly give? EVERYONE would turn on them.
I think they're fucked, and I hope I'm right.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:31 PM
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15. Your are normal, you care. They don't. n/t
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:57 PM
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18. They'll come up with something akin to the 45-minute mushroom cloud.
Will the Democrats be unified and stop this juggernaut? Will the media oppose or beat the drums for war? I hope you're right, too, but I'm not as optimistic.

I sat in class a few weeks ago with a number of students who passionately defended Blackwater. I'm not convinced at all that "everyone" would turn on them, but again, I hope you're right!

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:45 PM
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17. something may happen
but it might not be what BushCo expect (financial collapse/severe recession). We may wind up thanking all those nasty loan sharks and bewildered homeowners for pushing the economy over the edge before we can get WWIII started. And unlike the last time 'round, we won't be trying to manufacture our way out... that has all gone overseas.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:05 PM
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19. Now I'm depressed. ;-)
I like that: "bewildered" homeowners. Yes, many were, but many knew full damn well what they were getting in to and assumed the risk anyway. TFB.
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