Why Black Women Prefer Clinton To Obama

[rinsd]

Bill Clinton's Presidency Remembered With Fondness; Hillary Seen As A Winner



(CBS) By CBSNews.com's Michelle Peltier

One of the intriguing stories of Campaign '08 is the popularity of Hillary Clinton with black women who might be expected to support Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the first African-American to emerge as a serious contender for a major party presidential nomination.

A series of CBS News polls show the New York senator has a 15-point lead over Obama among black women. Other polls have confirmed Clinton’s popularity with African-American women.

Overwhelmingly, the most frequently stated reasons women give for favoring Hillary Clinton are that they have positive feelings about her husband and his administration and they think she's got the best shot of any of the Democrats to win against the Republicans.

"Most Black women simply believe Clinton can win," said former Gore campaign manager and Democratic strategist Donna Brazile. "They loved her husband Bill and would like to see 'a woman elected first'"

More a link - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/02/politics/main3562837.shtml

[MsKandice01]

1. It's all about Bill...

They want Bill back in the White House. That's the reason why a lot of people are behind Hillary though, not just black women.

[RiverStone]

12. quite naive

Hillary does not equal Bill.

And Hillary has as much chance to win as Dukakis did back in 88, IMO.

I hope reality sets in before too long. Obama and Edwards have a far more realistic chance across regions and parties.

[MsKandice01]

26. Agreed.

[HuffleClaw]

65. exactly

i just don't get how anyone can think that had she been on her second term as a junior senator and decided to declare her candidacy for the democrat presidential nominee she'd have gotten even a fraction of the press she has had as the former first lady.

[Name removed]

2. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Cameron27]

5. That's just pathetic.

[Name removed]

13. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ilovesunshine]

18. Your parents must be so proud.

[aquart]

20. My goodness, the poor like Hillary. ANOTHER CRIME!

THAT'S what DU needed, an infusion of pure, undiluted bigotry and sexism.

[NMMNG]

31. OMG, Ronnie, is that you?

I didn't expect you back so soon.

[cuke]

38. Because rich white men have such a great record at picking presidents, right?

[MNDemNY]

48. Wrong web site. eeeek

[butterfly77]

51. Bullshit!

I guess these people are suppose to be too stupid to know or believe who has their best interest...Some of the so called uneducated have more sense than the so called educated. If they are poor I guess they are suppose to be stupid? The so called educated and rich voted for this stupid,dumbass that is in the whitehouse right now. Are there any rich single mother types who voted for the asshole and thief?

[chimpymustgo]

6. Is that your definition of black women? Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord

split you. Buh-bye!

[eyesroll]

7. Wow, that was one of the more racist and obnoxious things I've seen here, drbob99.

Um, welcome to DU?!?

[ronnykmarshall]

8. Hello and good-bye

[drbob99]

16. Many polls have shown her highest favorables among poor, uneducated, unemployed, single mother-types

[tammywammy]

11. um, WOW, that's disgusting

[XemaSab]

14. Negresses are all needy, poor, uneducated women with many chilldren.

It's a fact. :eyes:

[Chovexani]

I had no idea!

Damn I should quit my job and go get welfare for my 16 chillins. Oh wait I don't have any kids.

...how about cats, do they give welfare for single cat parents? :crazy:

[XemaSab]

29. You can put the cats down as kids on your welfare form, and get that caddy you're been wanting.

:popcorn:

[Chovexani]

33. Come on baby

Mama needs a new pair of shoes!

[ariesgem]

30. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[ilovesunshine]

39. I'm a woman and don't have any children that I know of, but I do have a big dog.

Does that count?

Did I mention that he is a really big dog.

220 lbs worth of dog!

[Chovexani]

42. Girl you can get paid!

:rofl:

[maddiejoan]

55. I'm an unemployed transexual

with a 25 pound tabby cat and a parrot.

Problem is I'm jewish --any chance of me getting anything? I support Hillary if that helps!

[ilovesunshine]

56. No soup for you!! nt

[maddiejoan]

57. and without trans-inclusion in ENDA

there might never be soup for me

:gasp:

[Olney Blue]

63. "single cat parents"

My cat just looked at me for laughing out loud at your post! :rofl:

[JeffR]

19. Please say that wasn't intended to come across the way it does

?

[rinsd]

21. No such luck. See # 13 (nt)

[JeffR]

27. OMG

:wow:

[drbob99]

22. Sorry if some you can't face reality but that is one of her key demographics and she knows it.

[Maven]

25. OMG.

Please tell me you didn't say that.

[Connie_Corleone]

36. You really shouldn't comment while drinking.

[here_is_to_hope]

61. And I shouldnt read your comments while eating!

Now, help me with this mess, will ya?:hi:

[Bucky]

45. Thinking just isn't your bag, is it?

Why isn't this racist shit deleted yet?

[skipos]

3. Is it intriguing that I am white and I don't support Hillary?

I don't think so.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. And could it be...

That they bond with her as a woman...

That this is the reason behind all of their support?

:shrug:

[bigdarryl]

9. my question to black women is what has she done for blacks in general?

the only one bringing up black issues is Edwards

[aquart]

17. No, the question is what has she done for WOMEN.

Which you don't want to ask, do you?

[bigdarryl]

37. Well what the hell has she done for women

[aquart]

50. Entertain yourself.

<http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463>

[Deja Q]

10. Ooooh, racial profiling in action!

How come profiling is more acceptable than profiling?

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Just Wait For the Oprah Express

Once Oprah starts pointing out that facts, that 15-point lead (only 15 points now?) will crash to the ground.

[elizm]

23. Poll SC after Sunday when Oprah is here...

The rally is being held in the Coliseum in Columbia which holds 18,000...and the tickets are nearly gone in just 5 days.

[ilovesunshine]

28. Nearly gone? Surely you jest....

I would have expected those tickets to be hotter than a Super Bowl, for political junkies.

[JustAnotherGen]

24. I'm a black woman

I'm not poor. Uneducated. I have no mouths to feed other than my own.

And I'm voting for Edwards.


However, I seem to recall reading at one point that one of the best 'groups' in terms of 'doing better/advancing' during the Clinton Administration was black women. But specifically - those who benefited from welfare to work programs, came from the poorest segment - that reached the middle class.

I don't think there are many upper middle class and beyond black women that trust her. Just my two cents as one of "them thar negresses". :-)

BTW - Can I add a white woman's perspective? My mom is one. She just turned 60 last month. Professional college educated woman. However, she's never forgiven Hillary for the 'staying home and baking cookies' comment. A lot of women in my mom's generation DID stay home with their children when they were young and supported their husband's career path. They then (like her) escaped from the House the minute the youngest was in grade school (why not use the degree - eh?).

Now, I'd be interested to see what happens when educated white women that are Clinton's age start remembering how she alienated them 15 years ago. People have long memories.

[ilovesunshine]

32. My mom is 62 and she is a die hard Hillary supporter, what's interesting is that....

she voted for Bush twice.

[JustAnotherGen]

34. ilovesunshine

Oh my God! Stunning.

My mom hates the Bushwhacker's guts! Never voted for him - he makes her sick.

[ilovesunshine]

41. I was stunned too! Made Thanksgiving a nice time.

The other Thanksgivings?

Not so much of a good time.

[Bucky]

49. Shh. Don't spoil the fun.

You're supposed to vote on your race and gender, not your independent judgment over the issues. If you'll excuse me now, I have to go kick an Irishman off his potato farm now.

[aquart]

53. So your mother loved baking cookies so much she...

went back to work as fast as she could?

And blamed Hillary for feeling the same way? Okey dokey.

[JustAnotherGen]

64. She also

Never forgave her for being a Goldwater Girl. While my mom was out protesting againts the war in Vietnam and fighting for Civil Rights (marching and raising hell) - Clinton was one of 'them'. One of those people that Goldwater said the Republicans shouldn't worry about.

Remember?


I think as a professional White Woman with a black husband and two black children - she has earned the right to hold it against her. ;-)

ETA - and if you don't think what happened in the past should be of concern . . . then why don't we let as a party let Billy Bob Strom and Billy Bob Trent off the hook?

[Connie_Corleone]

35. Not this black woman.

And none of the black women I know are voting for Hillary. They might like Bill, but they can't stand Hillary.

[bigdarryl]

40. Yeah and now she attacks a black man running for President CHARACTER

that should make black woman happy

[Cameron27]

43. Oh baloney darryl,

Obama's not a saint, he attacked her character when he called her Bush-lite.

[ilovesunshine]

47. Liar, liar, pants on fire! I read here that Obama walks on water! nt

[Cameron27]

52. lol

[bagrman]

62. She voted for the Patriot Act twice, she's not qualified.

[butterfly77]

44. Not necessarily...

Did she speak to all black women,these people don't know what in the hell they are talking about. I guess she spoke to all of the michiganders that won't have their votes counted too. Shut the hell up! Donna Brassiere!

[ilovesunshine]

46. All black women? How can one speak to all people?

[Imagevision]

54. Oprah Winfrey doesn't support Hillary and this will be made more obvious as

Iowa approaches, check your polls a week before the primary...?

[maddiejoan]

58. But she will

when Hillary's our nominee.

So it's all good.

[Nedsdag]

59. As an African American woman, I don't support Hillary.

To me this is an insecurity among African Americans. There is a sense of plantation devotion to this woman.

"But Miz Hillary been good to us colored folks. She take care of us."

[robinlynne]

60. Most black women? Really?