we have a great chance at winning if Nader's support collapses

[ringmastery]

The vast majority of his former supporters should vote democratic this November

Here are results from 2000. Nader made many, many, safe democratic states unnecessarily competitive and also made states that we had a very good chance of winning out of reach.

He cost us the election. In both Florida and New Hampshire, he had tens of thousands of more votes than the margin of victory.

Iowa

Gore 49%
Bush 48%
Nader 2%

Ohio

Bush 50%
Gore 46%
Nader 3%

Wisconsin

Gore 48%
Bush 48%
Nader 4%

Oregon

Gore 47 %
Bush 47 %
Nader 5 %

Florida

Gore 49%
Bush 49%
Nader 2%

New Hampshire

Bush 48%
Gore 47%
Nader 4%

Minnoesota

Gore 48%
Bush 46%
Nader 5%

Nevada

Bush 49%
Gore 46%
Nader 2%

Arizona

Bush 51%
Gore 45%
Nader 3%

Missouri

Bush 51%
Gore 47%
Nader 2%

Colorado

Bush 51%
Gore 42%
Nader 5%

[AP]

1. Take a look around DU. Are you confident that Nader's voters are people

who would have voted Dem (or voted at all) if Nader hadn't been in the race?

How many people do you think voted for Gore because Nader kept it interesting (or compelled people to get out and help Gore in the face of Nader's chalenge)?.

[Blue_Chill]

2. They don't want to hear facts man

They rather bitch about their ideals and then blame the dems for losing. What they don't realize is no major party has the luxary of appealing only to there left/right base. You have to win center as well.

But Nader has no such worries and much like Perot will sap votes from the base and cause the party to lose. Support for Nader is support for Bush, because wether they like it or not in reality that is the result.