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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:21 PM
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Huckabee will not be the nominee
The powers that be in the repuke party will sabotage him all the way. They control their party nominating process much more tightly than the dems do- even in a year like this one. Huckabee is vp material. Romney is much more palatable to them than the Huckster.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:22 PM
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1. Fuck Me.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:26 PM
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5. Geez...aren't you gonna buy me a cocktail first?
:rofl:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:24 PM
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2. I disagree....
I think Romney has huge problems, and Huckabee will beat him.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM
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6. It's my understanding Huck also has huge problems
His immigration stance is one. And I've read he has some ethics problems from his time as guv in Arkansas. Romney has the flip flop image and now the judge/pardon issue. Romney has the establishment support and the bucks however. I see a Romney/Huck ticket as likely.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:48 PM
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28. that, and the big money people
avoid him like the plague, but man $/vote you have to wonder if the GOP is taking notice. Although, his message does fuck with the GOP narrative, thanks for your vote, now go fuck yourself.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM
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7. Right, the GOP voter is a timid sort who loves consistency
and Mittens has no principles he holds closely enough to stick to. Huckabible is consistently nuts and much more appealing to them. Plus, he's got a reasonable record as governor and many of his policies, especially his educational policies, were very good ones. He's just totally bonkers on social issues.

They'll just get a smarmy corporate type in the #2 slot to make sure Reaganomics remains on track.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:35 PM
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18. From what I've heard, his education policies were awful--a lot of perfectly
good rural schools shut down in some sort of misguided plan. But you'd have to ask the people of AR about that.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:40 PM
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21. He also restored art and music programs
even as he consolidated schools. Many studies have shown that art and music programs aid students in math and language skills, so that was a wonderful thing for him to do.

Of course, it's not going to play well with the "Three 'R' Only" type of GOP who want Johnny to buckle down into a school program designed after an 1880 sweat shop.

However, it's an example of why he's got a reasonable, not bad, record as governor and why he's the pick of a bad litter of candidates.

He's consistent, personable, has a fair track record, and is extremely dangerous.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:42 PM
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23. OK, I think he's awful. Just an awful, corrupt shyster, a crooked hypocritical televangelist type.
I think he's truly evil, a fake Christian. So we'll have to disagree.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:22 PM
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31. Not so fast, my friend.
(with apologies to Lee Corso)

Huckabee is gaining a lot of momentum. The fundies seem to like him. Remember when we all thought Boy George could never get elected?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:25 PM
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3. Huckabee is 1992's Tsongas
He'll fade...

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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:25 PM
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4. i hope so
but the sheeple like the folksy.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM
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8. He may manage to eke out the nomination but the corporate repubs
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 12:27 PM by tularetom
will never allow him to be elected. Look for a Bloomberg third party candidacy to siphon off some of the big bidness repub voters from him particularly if Hillary gets the Dem nomination. I think the big money country club fat cats in the repub party would prefer her to a religious populist wacko like huckelberry.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:30 PM
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9. He is not a corporate lackey. He raised taxes. Corporations will support Romney or Hillary. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:31 PM
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12. You might want to check his record with Tyson in Arkansas.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
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13. He was repeatedly investigated on corruption and ethics complaints
when he was guv. he's dirty.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:31 PM
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10. He will do well in Iowa, less well in New Hampshire and then poop out because he has no money.
Pat Robertson won the Iowa caucus. It's tailor made for right wing evangelicals because it's little more than a glorified church event anyway.

New Hampshire will be the unwinding of his aspirations.

The corporate class that runs the GOP class will shut him down. And Fox News will be part of his unwinding.

He is a shameless demagogue to be sure, right out of Elmer Gantry, but he will not be an issue once the big primaries begin.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:31 PM
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11. He won't be, but he's a useful tool for Rudy, and they clearly have an alliance--
the neocons want Rudy. I used to believe that they wanted Mittens, because he's so malleable and convictionless, but in fact they must have deduced that Mittens is not going to be faithful to the neocon plan--he's been kinda negative on the war, and has done things his own way in the past. Therefore, Rudy. And the neocons are also promoting Hucky, because he's useful for taking down Mittens in Iowa, thus stopping his momentum. I'm convinced Thompson was also thrown in there by the neocons (he's a member of AEI, after all) to take down Mittens.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
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14. A former Arkansas Governor born in Hope Ak would never
stand a chance...oh wait! Stranger things have happened.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:33 PM
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16. as if that had anything to do with it.
huckabee has plenty of skeletons.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:41 PM
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22. And the Man from Hope didn't have few skeletons?n/t
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:45 PM
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25. And Rudy does not? nt.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:51 PM
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29. Rudy's not going to make it either.
His skeletons are already tumbling out.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:47 PM
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27. Huckabee is no Bill Clinton n/t
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:32 PM
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15. I cannot say that yet.
Hucksterbee is coming
on pretty good and has
the whole 'God tells me
what to do' schtick that
the right-wing fundies so
dearly love. He is projecting
himself as very personable,
a guy you would go hear his
band play. A guy who has struggled
with obesity, which is rampant here
and many identify with him on that
issue alone.
I think Rudy's chances are shot.
I think the GOP's top 3 will
end up being Romney, Huckabee, and
McCain.
It will be interesting to see how
it plays out.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:34 PM
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17. I still think that the RW evangelicals and "Christian"fundamentalists have the power
to select the R's nominee. For awhile I believed the stories about their reduction in power (e.g., NYT Magazine article recently), but seeing Huckabee move up so fast in polls makes me think he can win it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:38 PM
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20. He will not do well in NH, or on super Tuesday n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:46 PM
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26. I hope he won't, but all the other states still count.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:37 PM
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19. he has crazy jesuz freek eyes!!!
once he starts foaming at the mouth, speaking in tongues, and handling snakes, only rush limbaw will be on board.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:45 PM
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24. He isn't even VP material
Otherwise I agree with you. No way are they going to let Huckabee in.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 12:58 PM
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30. I think there's a good chance he will be...
I've heard from "people who know people" on the ground in Iowa and N.H. that he plays very well on the campaign trail. He's very popular in both places...:popcorn:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:25 PM
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32. I wish I shared your confidence....I really do.
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