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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:48 PM
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Any theories on this?
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 03:53 PM by Brigid
A thread about the election(?) of 2000 has me remembering a question I've been meaning to ask for a long time:

Remember in "Farenheit 9/11" when Moore talked about African-American members of the House of Representatives who tried to file objections to the certification of the election(?) results, but could not find a single Senator to sign on, as required by the rules? Any theories as to why that was?
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:50 PM
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1. Anthrax........I know it was before that but maybe they were threatened.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:17 PM
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7. good one
:rofl:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:55 PM
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2. Maybe because it had NEVER happened before?
It would be an interesting thing to ask of Barbara Boxer - as to why she stood up in 2005 but not in 2001.

In January of 2005 she courageously stood as the ONLY senator to agree that "WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT CONCEDE" Her objections to the certification made headlines in Marin County CA (Where her political career originated.)

She was a Senator in January of 2001 as well. So maybe the fact that she was more educated on the issue the second time around??

It could well be that she saw the "Fahreinheit" movie when it came out in Fall of 2004. Almost every other citizen in Marin County did.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:00 PM
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3. Al Gore asked the Democratic Senators not to contest the votes
I can't find the link but Russ Feingold said it in an interview.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:01 PM
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4. Barbara Boxer said that also.
Gore thought the nation needed to heal and move on.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:04 PM
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5. I wonder what Gore thinks now.
At the time, nobody knew how bad things would get, I guess.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:36 PM
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13. I never thought it would get THIS fucking bad.
I figured we'd have a pretend-rube in there for 4 years, than on to more adult stuff.

My first clue was when Ashcroft was confirmed...and even THAT didn't prepare me for these anti-American criminals.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:04 PM
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6. I bet Al is regretting that one.
I suspect if he had to do it over again he would have fought it to the end.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:19 PM
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8. my theory
they assumed the mood of the country was that they just wanted to move on. even if they believed in the objections, they either didn't have the courage to stand alone, or they didn't have the will.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 09:43 PM
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10. The Supreme Court should have never agreed to hear the case
Remember, it came from the Bush camp. What they wanted was what they got - that the SC decided that the ballots did not need to be recounted in the state of Florida.

Breyer wrote an awesome dissenting opinion. And in that dissenting verbiage, he points out that neither camp claimed that there was anything fraudulent about the election.

We now know differently, but at the time Gore and the rest of the pmore powerful Dems like Boxer jsut were not aware of how crooked an election could be.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:27 PM
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9. Faith in the Supremes n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:21 AM
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14. Yep. We all thought Diana Ross would come through for us.
:evilgrin:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 09:59 PM
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11. I think Al Gore was persuaded by the Democratic Establishment
not to pursue it any further. The Supreme Court had made its decision. That was the end of the road. It could not be taken any further. I think that was the argument that was presented to Al Gore.

And I think Gore accepted it as an inevitability. To try and fight further would only divide the country more. He thought he was doing what was best for the country. So he asked the Congressional Black Caucus to go along with his decision.

Not one Senator would sponsor the Black Caucus' proposition and it died. I'm certain they all thought it was best for the country to put it all behind us. The Court had spoken. There was nothing else anyone could do. In the end, the decision was Al Gore's and he decided to let it go. I'm sure he did for patriotic reasons. But, he must have second thoughts now...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:26 PM
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12. Because Al Gore asked them not to
and for good reason.

If the election were thrown to the House, they would've easily voted in Bush/Cheney, thus making their election perfectly constitutional.

In practical terms, the election was decided. There was no conceivable outcome which resulted in Gore gaining the White House.

Bush won in the electoral college. Bush would've won had the House decided the election. No contest in the Congress would've changed that.
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