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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:28 PM
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Diamonds or Pearls?
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:39 PM by NanceGreggs
Diamonds or Pearls?

I think it’s a more than fair question, asking the presidential candidates to explain their preference for one thing over another.

In keeping with that concept, I think the following should be asked at the next GOP presidential debate:

What is the greater evil in today’s society? Wasting tax dollars on subsidizing welfare, food banks, homeless shelters, and other social programs to assist down-and-out Americans, or wasting tax dollars to subsidize oil conglomerates that are already raking in billions in profits?

In a time of war, how are our tax dollars best spent? Should we negotiate contracts with experienced and proven service contractors to supply our forces at the best price, or should we hand no-bid contracts to corporations like Halliburton, and just look the other way when the money allegedly spent on our troops can't be accounted for?

Which plan better serves national security interests? Continuing the current course in the Middle East that has been proven to encourage the recruitment of more terrorists, or just supressing and/or ignoring NIE reports that state that as a fact?

What is the best plan for extricating ourselves from the quagmire in Iraq? Should we withdraw our troops now and declare victory, or wait until we lose another ten or twenty thousand troops and then declare victory?

How do we deal with the cost of caring for returning vets? Should we deny their claims for rehab /disability pensions/psychiatric counseling upon their return to the States, or continue to send them into combat, exhausted and under-equipped, and bury them when they’re dead, which is a one-time expenditure and much cheaper than long-term care?

What is the most effective way of dealing with the so-called War on Terror? Should we continue distancing ourselves from our traditional allies whose cooperation is necessary, or should we keep eating Freedom Fries until everyone comes around?

How can we regain our credibility as a world power? Should we keep rattling our sabers at Iran and hope no one notices that our military is broken, or start another world war and hope we’ve got enough Americans left to repopulate the military?

How can we keep our nation safe from terrorists? Should we prevent people from carrying shampoo and baby formula on our aircraft and declare ourselves safe, or should we keep our fingers crossed and hope that the uninspected cargo on that same aircraft doesn’t blow up in mid-air?

What is the best course for keeping American jobs viable? Should we outsource as many jobs as possible to cheap labor markets in order to increase corporate profits, or should we continue to under-pay workers while increasing salaries and bonuses for CEOs on the premise that rich CEOs will spend their money at the local Wal-Mart?

How do we grow the economy? Do we stay the course with respect to eliminating middle class jobs entirely, or do we stay the course by ensuring the only products the middle class can afford on their salaries are produced in cheaper overseas sweatshops rather than products made by American workers?

How can we protect our Constitution and still protect our nation from would-be terrorists? Should we publicly dispense with the Constitution altogether, or should we declare those who uphold the Constitution as subversives and shuttle them off to Gitmo so that no one finds out that the Constitution has been dispensed with?

How do we deal with the current crisis in education? Do we continue to act like we’re actually interested in improving education, or do we just tell our kids that there’s no point in being educated when they’re just going to wind up in the military fighting the next war, and the next, and the next?

How do we placate the Christian Fundie voter and continue to torture? Do we throw ‘em a bone by promising to make homosexual marriage illegal, or do we commission religious scholars to rewrite the New Testament and pass it off as the newly-found lost teachings of Jesus in which he actually extolled the virtues of using torture?

How do we quell the fears of Americans who see the national debt rising to unprecedented heights? Do we tell them that the countries we are borrowing from don't expect to be repaid, or do we convince them that only a minimum payment is required which will amount to no more than $25.00 per month?

In the long run, what is more important? “Keeping American democracy safe” by relinquishing it ourselves, or “destroying American democracy” in order to keep terrorists from trying to force us to relinquish it?

Diamonds or pearls, Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Romney, Mr. Tancredo, et al – and please speak up; we don’t want to miss your thoughtful answers.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:33 PM
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1. ah yes... how thoughtful those answers would be
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:44 PM by themartyred
great job again Nance!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:40 PM
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2. Ooops!
Thanks. (Damn those Chirstians!)
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:47 PM
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3. K&R Nance, well done, well done!
:kick:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:54 PM
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4. Questions for Republican candidates?1?
Fortunately for the GOP, the MSM won't be stooping to such heinously objective and informative tactics.

Instead, it will be:

Pork rinds or cheese steak?

Hummer or Jimmy?

Nuke Iran or just destroy it with conventional weapons?

More tax cuts or slash wasteful entitlement programs?

Deport undocumented immigrants or toss 'em in internment camps?

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:00 AM
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5. Salsa?
Tasty condiment or ketchup-equivalent vegetable?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:43 AM
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7. Mmm. Salsa...
:9

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:56 AM
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6. "Diamonds or Pearls?" should never be forgotten - - The perfect symbol of our PROPAGANDING PRESS....
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:25 AM by charles t






. . . and how appropriate that these corporate tools (of a government run by the most over-reaching administration in history) did not only avoid asking the proper questions, but attempted to pass off their naked propaganda as a spontaneous question of a college student. . .

(That the exploited student spoke out & exposed the cynical machinations of a formerly great news organization (CNN) should not be forgotten.)




You not have come up with a great list of questions for the next Republican debate, Nance. And you could not have selected a more appropriate title, a title fittingly crafted by our corporate media in their service to their masters.



"Diamonds or Pearls?" should become a household term, one that all Americans come to instantly associate with our fallen press - - - a press that has abandoned it ethical responsibilities to become another tool of corporate power.

"Diamond or Pearls?" should become a term of shame for our corporate media - - - and a term that serves to remind ethical journalists of their responsibilities to serve as watchdogs for a free society.

"Diamond or Pearls?" should be shoved back in the faces of our corporate media whores every time they attempt to falsely portray themselves as the rightful heirs of the free & potent press which once served to sustain, to protect, and to improve our republic & our open society.

"Diamond or Pearls?" . . . . . . There could not exist a more fitting symbol for how far our press has fallen.

"Diamond or Pearls?" . . . . . . Don't let this shameful episode be forgotten.






Thanks for a great essay, Nance.

These are questions that should certainly be asked, if responsible journalists have any input into the next Republican debate.








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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:47 AM
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8. I am Apollo11 and I recommended this blog.
:kick:
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:04 AM
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9. So have you ever seen
unidentified flying jewelry? Ick! And when did we surrender our right to choose our president via the ballot box? When, exactly, did we hand that function over to the mainstream media? Whence do Blitzer and Williams and Russert derive the authority to virtually ignore legitimate candidates while manipulating the others into schtick shooting galleries?

Honestly, the "debates" have become blatantly contrived, even to the willingly bamboozled. That said, there is a trick that helps to endure them -- picture Blitzer, Russert, Williams, etc., in fishnet stockings and way too much lipstick, posing under a streetlamp. Amusing as that picture is, it is sadly appropriate given their propensity for tricking the proposition that we are entitled to hear from all the candidates, not just the ones of the networks' choosing.

Ah, coffee and Nance Greggs. What a great way to start the day!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:10 AM
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10. You Expect MSM To Ask Real Questions? And Candidates to Give Real Answers?
You don't want much, do you?

It's so crazy, I wish it would happen!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:42 AM
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11. How would today's "journalists"
have covered the Lincoln / Douglass debates? If elected will you shave your beard or if elected will you grow one?
Mr. Lincoln, do you believe that 150 years from now there will be a group of self loathing homosexual Republicans espousing your early life?
Mr. Douglass, do you think freeing the slaves will put an end to the pool of cheap labor that creates inordinate wealth for the robber barons?
Mr. Lincoln, between emancipating and proclamating, which do you prefer?
Russert in net stocking under a lamp post carrying a beaded bag, hmmmm:puke: :headbang:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:55 AM
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13. To be fair, though, don' t forget "Mr. Lincoln, how long should a man's legs be?"
Lincoln: "Long enough to reach the ground."

(I don't know when he was asked that though I doubt it was at a debate)
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:46 AM
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12. that question has to go down
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 09:52 AM by neutron
as one of the most insulting and offensive stereotyping comments in national politics.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:00 PM
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19. But you gotta admit
she gave a perfect answer.
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:55 AM
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14. regarding pears and diamonds
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 09:56 AM by boricua79
how about neither. How about actually being an example of humility and solidarity with the rest of the people and not showing off the "bling".

I'd feel SO weird running around like Mr. T with gold chains, and I'd definitely would feel weird to be wearing thousands of dollars around my neck.

I'd rather have a candidate with a constitution in his pocket (Dennis K.) than one with pears or diamonds around her neck. (and if someone uses this for a quote, I get royalties please!)

And that's what at stake in this election.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:24 AM
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15. why not diamonds and pearls...?.

"Would you be a happy boy or a girl

If I gave you diamonds and pearls.. "prince"


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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:30 AM
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16. If enough of US sent those questions via email to CNN, You Tube, or MSNBC..
Would any of them make air time??

Excellent list, and one I'm printing out, just in case I ever get to ask a REAL question or know anyone who might be in a position to ask a REAL QUESTION ! Thanks !
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 06:25 PM
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17. What document do you swear to uphold if elected (anointed) president?
The Constitution, or the Project for a New American Century?


Why not:
Blood Diamonds, or Pearls ripped from depleted, exploited, oil-stained oceans?

it's the republican way...
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 06:57 PM
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18. Excellent question! n/t
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:03 PM
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20. K & R, and the $25.00 monthly minimum payment was a perfect
touch of humor, albeit of the noir variety.

This rant's a thing of beauty. :applause: MKJ

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:08 PM
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21. Thank you, my friend.
Amazing how that $25.00 monthly minimum has become part of our culture - and continues to mislead the masses into thinking that over-spending will never present a problem ...
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:12 PM
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22. But what do we do when they all answer "Column B" on every issue?
And, worse yet, do so with a straight face?
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