Looking at the video of the alleged Obama yelling incident one wonders if the microphone. . .

[wndycty]

. . .is a little loud. Either the mic was too hot or it was turned turned up in the play back. Any audio experts on the DU?

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. if you raise your voice into a microphone

it's going to sound like you're yelling. That's why they have microphones, so you don't have to raise your voice.

It's also possible the acoustics in the room sucked too.

But either way, I don't think he was yelling. Just speaking above his normal tone. We're not used to hearing him speak outside of his normal tone.

[Warpy]

7. The "Dean scream" was the result of an isolation mike

meaning one that was set to suppress all the ambient noise in the room, which was considerable. Dean felt he had to scream to be heard, and he probably did. Film taken from the rear of the hall brought that point home, although it was only shown on the net for a very short time.

Chances are this is the identical scenario.

[Beaverhausen]

11. I'm guessing the acoustics were bad, and maybe Obama couldn't hear himself

and felt he had to raise his voice a bit.

[rocktivity]

2. The Dean Scream redux?

The MSM has yet to admit that it was totally fabricated.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Basileus Basileon]

6. The Dean Scream wasn't "fabricated." It was blown out of proportion, yes.

It was misleading, yes. It shouldn't have been an issue, yes. And it did reveal a lack of media-handling prudence on Dean's part, yes.

But it wasn't fabricated.

[dsc]

21. when the whole point is how loud he was

it is a total lie. They took out all the crowd sound and left his loud speech in.

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. I remember watching that

and cringing.

I didn't get that sense watching this tape. I really don't think he was yelling. But it was pretty obvious Dean was yelling. You know, the whole "Yeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh" thing.

[China_cat]

3. It could also have been a directional mic

which only captures the sound going directly into it. I have a feeling that, like the 'Dean scream', it would have sounded a lot different if the ambient noise in the room was also picked up.

[Debi]

4. I just posted an article from an AP reporter who was there in the other thread

Why wouldn't the print media be all over this if he had been yelling at the woman?

Here's the excerpt of the story:

<snip>

At a town meeting in Grundy Center, Obama engaged in a tense back-and-forth with Jane Svoboda, a local farmer who asked what he would do about terrorism and illegal immigration. Obama bristled at the notion that Republicans would be better protectors of national security.

'I have a 9-year-old daughter and a 6-year-old daughter. Don't think I care any less than Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney about making sure my daughters don't get blown up,' Obama said. 'I live in Chicago. It's much more likely than Grundy County for the next terrorist attack. So I take this deathly serious.'

<snip>

The link is back over on the other thread.

[Kahuna]

17. He couldn't have said, ''I have a 9-year-old daughter and a 6-year-old daughter'..

That's not on the video that MSNBC has been showing ad naseum. And besides..Wyldwolf says so.,,:sarcasm:

[Debi]

18. Heh, I'm not getting in the middle of the Obama/Clinton supporters

battle! :scared:

I just want the entire video to be shown AND I wonder why NO stories have been written about it if he in fact shouted this woman down?

++++++++++

Oh, this may not matter to many outside of Iowa - but Jane Svoboda is on the Board of Directors of Iowans For Tax Relief - about has hard-core neo-con as you can get out here :eyes:

http://www.taxrelief.org/directors.htm

[MADem]

5. What video? nt

[Nutmegger]

9. Here's a clip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3737418&mesg_id=3737418

[MADem]

13. What horrible sound quality. Here's what it sounded like to me

The 'elderly voter' sounded kinda 'crackerish'--like she was throwing down to the 'negro' and wanted to raise his hackles; that her question was DESIGNED to give him a poke. Her tone was NOT friendly.

He, in return, had a little 'shirtiness' in his voice. He took her bait, a bit, no--MORE than a bit, and responded 'testily' to put it succinctly.

I wouldn't call it yelling, though. I'd say he was speaking forcefully. He was probably weighing the risk of being too wussy, and having a Dukakis moment, to the risk of coming on too strong.

If he'd said the same thing with the "open, sincere" attitude, he probably would have been better off. But like I said, that questioner had an agenda, and she succeeded.

It would be interesting to follow HER down the line, find out who SHE votes for.

[Basileus Basileon]

8. I really can't believe that anyone on DU finds there to be the slightest problem with this.

I could sort of see saying, "Look, Obama should be more careful to always look respectful of idiots on camera." But I don't personally disapprove of a thing he said or the way he said it, nor can I see how any DUer would.

[MNDemNY]

10. I'm not an Obama supporter(He's my #5) But this IS bullshit.

[MADem]

15. I agree with you. NT

[Bluebear]

12. All Democrats have anger management problems. We are loony and angry.

The microphone was fine, it's just that we are kerrrrrazy, don't you know. :silly:

[Greyskye]

16. Question

Was the mic that Obama was holding tied into the PA system of the room? Or was it only there so that the video being shot would have sound?

When I watched the video, it did not sound as if there was any amplification of Obama in the room itself. This would explain why he appears to be 'shouting'. The woman that he was speaking to was obviously raising her voice in order for him to hear her as well.

[Basileus Basileon]

19. I'd doubt it. I think he really was taking that tone. And I do not have the slightest problem with

that, nor do I think most of the Great Offended would if it were their candidate.

[zulchzulu]

20. It seems they tweaked the audio and made it too "hot"

First of all, the video in question is edited on the YouTube at 12 seconds in.

Whoever posted the audio possibly increased the audio volume before posting on YouTube or it was tweaked by MSNBC.