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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:00 PM
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The Obama video answering the "What will you do to keep us safe" question was clearly edited.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:59 PM by jenmito
The woman asked, "I want to know specifically what you will do to protect this country from terrorism, and are we gonna close the borders and are we gonna get rid of the illegal immigrants," and it shows him saying, "Iraq didn't launch the twin towers. Neither did Saddam Hussein..." He was clearly responding to something the same woman shouted out while he was answering her first question. The vidwo was played on "Morning Joe" on MSNBC. Did they edit it? ETA: It WAS edited according to how the NBC correspondent described the exchange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:02 PM
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1. I don't know, Jen
I only saw a clip and I don't really know who clipped it. He seemed to be responding correctly to me and that he was yelling at an old lady is a crock.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:05 PM
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2. I think it was edited.
Someone posted that Micca (sp ?) said that it was.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:14 PM
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8. I don't think it's responding correctly to talk about Saddam not having anything to do with 9/11
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:15 PM by jenmito
when the original question was what he'd do to keep us safe and about the borders. That's why I think it was edited to make him look bad, or out of patience, when he was clearly responding to something further she yelled out. :shrug:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:20 PM
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14. I think it's been edited,
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:21 PM by seasonedblue
but I couldn't hear what the woman was asking after her first question.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:31 PM
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18. I think she was connecting Iraq to terrorism...
that's what he was responding to.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:25 PM
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17. I only saw a clip
It wasn't the one in your OP, I don't think, but I don't remember where I saw it. Is there a full video someplace?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 PM
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19. I can't find a full video. nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:45 PM
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26. I hope the campaign was taping it
We'll see, just to be sure.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:11 PM
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34. Here ya go...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:42 PM
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36. Thanks, but of course Faux's commentary wasn't very fair, and they conveniently
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:44 PM by jenmito
started the video AFTER she asked her questionS. This report is also very different from that of an NBC election correspondent who was there. They also ended the article with this, which proves she's a Repub.:

"After the event, Svoboda told a gaggle of press that the candidate didn’t answer all of her questions and that he didn’t have the experience to be president. No Democrat running, in Svoboda’s opinion, has strong national security credentials. But, she applauded him at the event’s conclusion and said he did “a good job.”
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:06 PM
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3. I didn't get that either, media hypes Obama as snapping?!? totally rediculous video clip
????????????
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:17 PM
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10. I agree.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:07 PM
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4. te second part of the woman's comments could not be understood... nt
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:08 PM
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5. In videoworld, the 'break' is called a transition
and is used by videographers to avoid 'panning' across the crowd. Nothing sinister that I could see,

BTW, no one cares if Obama was 'yelling' or not. It didn't even rise to the level of mid-temperature rant and smells a bit of MSM fight-hyping.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:10 PM
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7. Yeah, that's MSNBC pushing a non-story IMO.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:17 PM
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9. I think it's called editing to make him look bad...
even though he DOESN'T look bad. He's just answering some other question that the same lady must've shouted out while he was answering her.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:25 PM
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16. No, it's a transition
Panning across a crowd and then trying to reset focus is poor video workmanship. Panning tends to make viewers seasick.

Are you saying something important was cut out? What might that have been?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:33 PM
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20. Yes I think something important was cut out...
the response to her original question.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:08 PM
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6. I think the clip clearly shows that Obama will eat babies and kick dogs.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:10 PM by MNDemNY
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:18 PM
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11. Of course it was. nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:18 PM
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12. The woman who asked the question sounds like a right-winger.
"Get rid of the illegal immigrants?" She sounds hateful. I don't blame Obama for speaking forcefully in response.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:20 PM
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13. She does.
I put her in the category of the woman that called Hillary a "bitch".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:36 PM
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23. Someone who was there just said the situation got heated AFTER she kept interrupting him and
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:38 PM by jenmito
trying to connect Saddam to 9/11, so it must've been edited.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:56 PM
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29. I wouldn't be surprised. She sounds like a jerk.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 03:56 PM by yardwork
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:00 PM
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30. Yup. And I didn't hear him accuse her of being a plant, either. n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:02 PM
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31. If she was insisting on a connection between 9/11 and Saddam, good for Obama for getting mad.
It's about time that people start getting mad when right-wingers persist in these lies. Let the Democratic candidates lead the way. Sounds like Obama did ok.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:10 PM
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32. He was just trying to set her straight, but she's obviously a Repub., so I doubt it will work...
but I'm glad he answered her how he did.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:34 PM
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22. I agree, and so does Chuck Todd who said so...
but I still think he was answering something other than her original question.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:21 PM
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15. The video we saw was Obama merely giving a reply to an asked question...
Unless this video was edited an shown differently around the country it makes little sense.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:33 PM
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21. This is the first time I watched this video and I honestly don't
see what all the commotion is about. the woman sounded freeperish and I didn't think Obama sounded angry. He was speaking forcefully but I didn't necessarily hear anger. this is getting blown out of proportion if they are playing this endlessly on the tv and making a big thing about . this is just my subjective opinion and I say this as somebody who isn't a fan of Obama. :shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:40 PM
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24. Yup. And the person who reported that the exchange said it started off pretty calm but she kept
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:41 PM by jenmito
interrupting him.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:44 PM
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25. The person reporting what actually happened in full is an NBC campaign reporter
and she did keep interrupting him and finally he was trying to set straight the misinformation about the link between Iraq and 9/11.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:46 PM
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27. Just seeing it again on MSNBC spinacle, there are TWO obvious splices/edits so it has NO credibility
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:57 PM
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28. Thank you. I agree. Did you see what the NBC correspondent said?
She said the conversation got heated only after she kept interrupting giving the misinformation of Iraq being connected to 9/11.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:09 PM
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33. You were right - it was edited
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:52 PM
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39. Yup, I saw it. Thanks, though!
It wasn't the FULL video, though. They started the video AFTER she asked her questions as to not let us hear what she actually asked. But it's Faux Noise. What do you expect?
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:14 PM
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35. Here's the actual video:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:48 PM
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37. Thanks, but of course Faux's commentary wasn't very fair, and they conveniently
started the video AFTER she asked her questionS. This report is also very different from that of an NBC election correspondent who was there. They also ended the article with this, which proves she's a Repub.:

"After the event, Svoboda told a gaggle of press that the candidate didn’t answer all of her questions and that he didn’t have the experience to be president. No Democrat running, in Svoboda’s opinion, has strong national security credentials. But, she applauded him at the event’s conclusion and said he did “a good job.”
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:50 PM
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38. I agree.
But this uncut version proves Obama wasn't "screaming" at some little old lady.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 PM
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40. True...
but it ALSO doesn't show how it started.
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