Biden overcame tragedy and became an expert on world affairs

[gateley]

If you're considering Biden, you may find this interesting...

By RENEE SCHOOF
McClatchy Newspaper


Under cover of night, Sen. Joseph Biden Jr. drove up to a yellowed stucco mansion in Belgrade where Yugoslavian leader Slobodan Milosevic was waiting. It was April 1993, about a year after Serbian forces and paramilitary gangs armed by Milosevic had unleashed a murderous campaign against Bosnia's Croats and Muslims.

Biden had been calling for sanctions and NATO air strikes against the Serbs and lifting a weapons ban on the Bosnians. All that would happen later, but at the time he was getting nowhere. Milosevic was paying attention, though. He invited Biden to his palace for a private chat.

As Biden tells the story in his memoir "Promises to Keep," the Serbian leader argued that the Serbs weren't persecutors but victims. Biden responded with accusations of Serbian atrocities. Milosevic denied them.

Finally, Biden recalled, "Milosevic could tell I had just about had it with his lies, and at one point he looked up from the maps and said, without any emotion, `What do you think of me?'"

"I think you're a damn war criminal, and you should be tried as one."

more.... http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/360971.html

[Steely_Dan]

1. That's My Joe...

...a straight talker. How refreshing.

-Paige

[gateley]

3. What an interesting story! I loved the anecdote Kerry told about Kennedy's dogs

responding to Biden's passionate discourse on Iran!

[AX10]

2. I'm voting for him in the primary.

:kick:

[gateley]

4. Happy to hear it - thanks!! nt

[jillan]

6. Glad to have you on board!!

[NYFlip]

7. So am I

I just sent him a contribution

[jillan]

10. Yay! Welcome aboard!

make sure you check out the Joe Biden group. Link on the bottom of home page :)

You too Ax10!

[gateley]

12. Hi! Welcome to DU! And thank you for your support of Joe Biden!

:hi:

[murbley40]

20. Yea!! Welcome!

:hi: :thumbsup:

[murbley40]

19. Yea!!! Welcome!!

:hi:

[walk softly]

25. GOOGLE

BIDEN 2005 BANKRUPTCY BILL

[gateley]

32. No need to. It's been discussed and argued on this blog

countless times, and will be again, do doubt. But thanks for trying to enlighten us all.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

EDIT to ask PS -- Did you read this article by the way? Just curious. Thanks.

[AX10]

27. So there are actual a good number of people on DU...

that support Biden. When I decided to vote for him In August, I was treated unkindly by many around here.
Now, I'm in good company.

[gateley]

33. I think that when people began to listen to him - see him in debates and on

news shows, they realized there might be something more to him than they were aware. Also recently, his place in the Pakistan situation - pretty impressive.

It's just too easy for us all to hear something about a candidate, accept it at face value, and base our decisions on that. I have to be constantly vigilant that I don't do that and it's not all that easy sometimes.

I'm impressed by the number of people who have taken the time to research Joe a little further, and appreciative of their effort, regardless of whether they become Biden supporters or not.

You've had a tough, lonely journey -- but we're here now -- and ain't it grand? :grouphug:

Very exciting to be a Biden supporter these days!

[PatSeg]

5. This is a great article

I hope people read the whole thing.

[justinrr1]

8. Excellent Article

Everyone should read!

[question everything]

9. K&R (nt)

[Catchawave]

11. K&R for Joe and his positive supporters....

Thanks for this :hi:

[gateley]

14. Thanks! This article also gave me a much needed SIMPLE explanation of part

of what the situation was over there, and I'm appreciative for that.

[Catchawave]

16. You're very welcome....

another :kick: for Joe :toast:

[ginchinchili]

13. I have no doubt that this is a true account.

Joe's a good-hearted guy, but the guy doesn't f*ck around. He's not afraid to play hardball when he has to. Thanks, gateley ;o)

[jillan]

15. C'mon Kerry!

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said that Biden as president would be "very good at bringing people together and sitting down and working through problems. He'd know how to get the business done."

Just do it already!


And I love the story about the dogs too :)

[Inuca]

23. LOL :-) n/t

[gateley]

17. Colleagues say Biden is a hard worker who puts in a lot of time learning from experts.

That's key - - turning to the experts to learn. Not everybody is smart enough -- or willing -- to do that.

AND..

At first read I thought his salary for teaching was $205,000 which I thought sounded high but I was happy for Joe.

Upon reading it again, I see it's $20,500 - a BIG difference. That indicates to me he's doing it because he loves it. I'm impressed yet AGAIN!

[ginchinchili]

30. Yeah, but he's not married to Bill Clinton.

If he was he'd be the front runner (but he might run into some trouble during the general election when their relationship came up for discussion).

[gateley]

31. Ha! Don't ask, don't tell. nt

[murbley40]

18. That's my Senator and MY president!!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[monmouth]

21. Do you notice how well Joe is doing in the Fun Run? I don't count Gore (ever).....

[youthere]

22. This is whay I love Joe...

"I think you're a damn war criminal, and you should be tried as one."

Exactly.

[gateley]

34. He also told Rumsfled - and I THINK Cheney - that he'd fire them if he could. nt

EDIT - was coming in to correct my typo in Rumsfeld's name, but decided, nah... who cares.

[AngryAmish]

24. I don't think a bad set of plugs is a "tragedy"

[justinrr1]

26. Kick for Joe

[gateley]

35. People are just so original! Never heard that one before - thanks! nt

[AngryAmish]

36. no problem!

Cheers!

[gateley]

37. Ha! Don't make me laugh when I'm trying to be superior and condescending!

So much for my "scathing" remarks. :7

:toast:

[momto3]

28. Another kick for Joe!!!

:kick:

[Cameron27]

29. That's a great story,

and it's not hard to visualize Joe doing that.