NBC's First Read: Good News, Bad News for Hillary

[flpoljunkie]

Good news, bad news for Hillary

Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 10:09 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton

From NBC's Mark Murray

A new RT Strategies/Cook Political Report poll has both good news and bad news for Clinton. Let's start with the good news: A whopping 78% of Democrats and Dem-leaning voters believe that she has as good of a chance as any Democratic nominee of being elected president. That's up from 60% who thought that a year ago, and 46% who said that in August 2006.

The bad news: She narrowly leads Giuliani in a head-to-head contest, 46%-43%, which is within the poll's margin of error. Yet she trails him among independents, 37%-48%, which happens to be a crucial bloc of voters for Democrats. How crucial? In 2004, per the exit polls, John Kerry -- who lost the presidential election -- won the independent vote by just one point (49%-48%). But when they took control of Congress last year, Democrats won the indie vote by 18 points, 57%-39%.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/14/466049.aspx

[hedgehog]

1. She trails Guiliani among independents!?!!? If that doesn't show that

people just aren't paying attention yet, I don't know what does. Enough of the horse races already! We need to demand coverage of the candidates, not of their chances!

On edit - it's tempting to read the OP and cheer for my candidate, but who knows how he would have polled vs Guiliani in a similar poll? If we want the best person to win, we need to stop acting like this is a all a big game. We need to make people aware that there are differences among the candidates, educate them about the differences and make a choice. Otherwise, people end up backing the perceived winner. This isn't like backing a team in the World Series, this is our lives we're talking about here!

[karynnj]

2. Look what % of the independents are undecided

I assume that Guiliani and Clinton were the only choices. Also, taking anything from the 2004 exit polls is suspect.

[rinsd]

4. Clinton & Guiliani were the only head to head matchup.

Also RT/Cook pushes leaners into the fold.

http://cookpolitical.com/races/report_pdfs/2007%20poll_tpline_nov11final.pdf

[Cha]

3. Fucking mediawhore

infested shite..wouldn't it be nice to decide WHO we want and not who the corporatemediawhores want to keep their monopoly?

[ClarkUSA]

5. The "bad news" is supported by a recent USA Today poll

WHile Hillary leads among Democrats, Obama and Edwards have sizable leads among independents while Hillary does not
have any lead among indies at all.

The nominee will have to have coattails (that means swing voters like we had in 2006 = independents and moderate Republican
votes) if we want to win a strong majority in Congress in 2008.