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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:46 PM
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Russert stalking Hillary Clinton?
Russert gave Hillary an unfair share of his tough questions during the last debate. This morning, Russert was supposed to be interviewing Obama, but Russert spent much of the time talking about Hillary Clinton.

Russert asked Obama 9 questions involving Hillary or comparing Obama to Hillary. Russert mentioned Hillary 21 times. Compared to other names: Bush 3 times, Edwards 0 times, Giuliani 1 time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432/

To his credit, Obama was more interested in talking about his own positives and more important campaign issues.
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artfan Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:51 PM
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1. stalking is too strong a term
you could make an arguement that he is obsessed but not stalking. Because she is the front runner she has a 'target' on her back. I would like to see the same scrutiny applied to the Republican canditates though.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:31 PM
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4. "stalking" works for me as the set up of the drivers license question to cover up its
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 02:44 PM by papau
being two different questions - it was too well done as to be an accident.

His set up was about a question about a Washington State, Homeland Security approved, car accident rate cutting, insurance cost cutting 3 tier drivers license where illegals do not get an "ID" type drivers license with Russert asking how Hillary felt about the Gov of NY suggesting such a system for New York (granted he left out the background on the 3 tier system - and indeed did not even note that it was 3 tiered - so as to not inform the audience or Chris Matthrews).

He then morphed that topic into the hot button "drivers license for illegals" with the security ID implied - hoping to and succeeding in getting Hillary to focus on the 3 tier question and not notice that the long set up did not totally describe the 3 tier concept - and thus allow him to twist it.

That sounds like "stalking" (as in GE approved Fox like tricks to harm the Dem) to me.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:59 PM
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2. I agree.
I think it's gotta be tough for all of them to keep the media on target. Which is ridiculous. Maybe a question or two about the front runner, but move on. Why invite these guys if they don't want to hear what they have to say.


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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:01 PM
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3. Russert is very very good at catching Democrats in inconsistencies
as he proved this morning with Obama. Why Democrats continue to go on his show, only to get embarrassed by Russert for what they once said a long time ago, is a mystery to me. This jackoff keeps every last statement they ever made in his archives for future ammunition against us.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:34 PM
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5. Perhaps worse is the attempt to trick Dems - and only Dems - with questions not quite asking what
you thought was being asked or being the same question as what you answered on that topic in the past.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:23 PM
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19. Notice how he doesn't do that to the Thugs. They get easy questions or
unimportant ones. The man's a snake in fat clothing!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:53 AM
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25. If you can't deal with tough questions, then don't run for President of the US.
I watched the interview with Obama on MTP.

I think it's absolutely legitimate to ask Obama about the different statements he has made on the war in Iraq, funding the occupation, and what he said about Dem Senators and House Members who voted for the Iraq War Resolution back in 2002.

I am interested to know how Obama explains the fact that back in 2004 he was saying that he did not know how he would have voted if he had been in the US Congress back in 2002. But now he is criticizing Dems (like Hillary and Edwards) who supported the IWR.

I think that Obama's explanation makes sense. But some Hillary supporters have pointed out that it's an example of Obame making contradictory statements. One explanation is that Obama was not being completely truthful back in 2004. Or maybe he is not being completely honest now?

I agree it's not fair if Russert appears to give Republican candidates an easier ride. But we have yet to see how he deals with Giuliani and Romney. If you ask me he should be asking tough questions to ALL the candidates.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:38 PM
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6. It's a vast Russert Conspiracy
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 02:46 PM
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7. GE (Jack) & Tim did have that Nov "walk in the park" at 3 am on how to destroy Gore's recount n/t
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 03:31 PM
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8. I think "vast' is a fitting description of Fat Timmy
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:57 PM
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9. I'm sure that NBC execs know that Russert has a personal problem with Hillary. If not, they should.
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 05:00 PM by David Zephyr
Russert's obsession with Hillary surpasses that of even Dick Morris, who Bill O'Reilly (of all people) said needed to seek counseling over it.

Russert should have interviewed Senator Obama, but he can't help himself.

I watched the interview and thought Obama did a good job trying to get around the constant Hillary questions.

It was almost surreal. Here's a candidate running for president who clearly wanted to express his views and all he gets is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary fromt Russert.

Tim Russert is a sick man.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:41 PM
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12. Dick Morris is a sick SOB!!!
His obsession with Hillary dates back to the time when he worked for the Clinton campaign in the 90's. When Dick was caught sucking the toes of a prostitute and he had to resign from the Clinton reelection campaign, he confessed that he had sexual fantasies about Hillary. It seems that his obsession with her is of a sexual nature, more than just about politics. Actually, I think that more than one of these right wing nuts have a thing for Hillary, even though they would rather be waterboarded than admit it! LOL!!!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:56 PM
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13. Hey! Welcome to the DU.
"I think that more than one of these right wing nuts have a thing for Hillary, even though they would rather be waterboarded than admit it! LOL!!!"

:rofl:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:50 PM
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21. Thank you!!
I'm serious about the right wingers and their fantasies. I love to go to Freerepublic and read what the nut cases write. They are obsessed with every aspect of Hillary's life: Do Bill and she "do it", was she Vince Foster's lover and did she have him killed, is Chelsea Webb Hubell's daughter (????), is she having an affair with Huma Abedin (her body person), etc.

They all claim to despise her and criticize her mercilessly, but I think that they doth protest too much and that more than one of these sexist men would swoon if she even smiled their way. The sick bastards!!! :evilgrin:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:05 PM
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18. Welcome to DU!
Please don't judge this board by the pre-primary antics. We are actually very nice people.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:39 PM
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20. Thank you for the welcome!
I don't judge anyone, we are all Democrats and have the right to root for our favorite candidate. For me it's Hillary, but I don't dislike the others. The only one that has gotten me so mad that I would love to say a few choice words to is Edwards. His constant bashing of Hillary has turned me completely off to him. IMO, he's crossed the line and has become as bad as the Republicans who mention her in every stump speech as if she were the Antichrist!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:14 AM
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24. he surely is one creepy mo fo
:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:01 PM
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10. Same as in 2003. BTW, when other Dems get unfair focus What Would Hill Do?
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:57 PM
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14. Hillary would try to get everybody to move on
just like she did here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:47 PM
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15. Baloney - she wanted Kerry OFF the campaign trail - she joined the LIE to do it.
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 06:47 PM by blm
Don't pee on legs and tell us it's raining.

She had the cameras - she could have backed up the TRUTH - but she didn't. She spent that precious camera time joining with Bush and LYING about John Kerry.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:19 PM
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16. That's a crazy theory based on zero
The incident took place just before the 2006 election. Instead of focusing on the election, the media spent days on Kerry. Everybody in the party wanted Kerry to just apologize so the subject would change. Hillary was just trying to change the subject.

The truth was that Kerry accidentally left a word out of his speech and it changed the meaning of a sentence to something horrible. Kerry should have just said it was an accident, apologized and moved on. The only reason Kerry refused to apologize was to grandstand his defiance to the right wing.

The rule ought to be simple. Do something wrong, make a mistake - apologize. Do nothing wrong - don't apologize.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:08 PM
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26. That's baloney - you know it - you just don't care.
Machine Democrats ruined this party for the cult of Clinton.

Too bad that cult also manages to benefit the secrecy and privileges of the Bushes, too.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:30 PM
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11. I don't think that he's stalking her.......
but I definitely think that he doesn't like her. I lost all respect for Russert when in the previous debate he played a gotcha question about torture and Bill Clinton. Remember how he set her up by telling her with a smirk that his mystery guest had been Bill? I thought then that he lost all semblance of objectivity, which is the moderator's job, when he asked her that question.

In the last debate, of the 50 plus questions asked, more than 25 were about her. It was almost as if Hillary was being attacked not only by the 6 candidates on stage, but also by the two moderators. It got so bad that Richardson chided them for getting personal (I think he mainly directed those comments at Edwards).

I will no longer watch Russert's program and don't even get me started on that weasel Chris (Tweety) Matthews. Talk about creeps!!! :mad:
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:25 PM
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17. Maybe more of a stalking horse?
As I said in another thread I think Edwards is the one that worries most of the ones in charge of alot of conservatives in the GOP.
By focusing on Hillary they are trying to take away from him to make it seem like he does not have the ability to win the nomination thus most of their focus will be on Hillary and Obama the two they think they can beat in the general election.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:11 PM
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23. You Just Keep Telling Yourself That, Dear! /nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:31 PM
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27. It also forces Dem party overall into defensive mode for Clintons just as we spent
the last 15 years as general population Dems - defending Clintons and learning little about any other Democratic leader.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:39 PM
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28. Many people, and I mean many, are obsessed with the Clintons..
as evidenced by a few posting on this thread!

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:05 PM
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22. Russert is a G.E. war machine stooge
MSNBC = G.E. war profiter
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