Tom Brokaw (who has a new book called "Boom") on Obama:

[polichick]

He just said to Keith Olbermann what I've been posting: Obama is only able to make this run BECAUSE of the battles of the 1960s.

So there! :)


(Looks like a very interesting book ~ a collection of voices from the 60s.)

[aquart]

1. Well, YEAH.

[polichick]

2. I could go nuts over some of this stuff...

Like the YouTube girls who are ready to throw away the right to choose in order to be a part of the Ron Paul craze ~ I want to slap them silly!

[wtmusic]

3. Tom ain't got nothing on you polichick

And next time I run into him I'm gonna tell him so! :spank:

[polichick]

5. Thank you kindly...

Peace, love & civil rights to us all!

[jefferson_dem]

4. Gawd. Have you not been paying attention?

Educate yourself about the Man and his message. Please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYByptC8mY

[polichick]

9. Sorry, but I very much wanted him to get into the race...

I loved that speech he made a few years ago, and thought he had a lot to offer. But his "divide and conquer" tactics really leave me cold, especially when he uses them to cozy up to Republicans.

[jefferson_dem]

11. No problem.

Running for Prez is tough business. You can never please everyone.

Cheers!

[maximusveritas]

6. Obama would certainly agree

But he would add that we don't need to refight those battles or other similar ones. We have new battles to fight and need to focus on them rather than go backwards.

[polichick]

7. What he needs to realize is that none of those battles have...

...yet been won ~ in fact, with the Republicans in power all these years, we've gone backward in many ways, especially on the environment.

Women will lose the right to choose if another Republican gets into office.

Women still don't make as much money as men for the same job.

Our judicial system still doesn't work for blacks the way it does for whites.

The list goes on and on.


Obama made a huge mistake disrespecting those who fought so that he could get where he is today. I think it's very interesting that his new ad shows an older man claiming that Obama is taking care of him.

[maximusveritas]

14. The general issues are the same, but the battles are different

What you're doing is presenting these very general issues. Do you really think those issues are what Obama's talking about?
And I'm not sure how he disrespected those who fought in the 60s. I've yet to see a direct quote that in any way disrespected them.

[polichick]

17. Well, he says the fights of the 60s...

What I listed were some of the fights ~ and, as I said, none of them are yet won.

It's funny, but I'm closer in age to Obama than I am to Clinton but he and I have such different views of those who came before us (or maybe he's just assuming a position for the sake of the race) ~ though I don't always agree with Hillary's politics (don't have much use for the DLC), I am so grateful for the doors that the earliest boomers opened for me. I admire them greatly ~ and I'm more than a little jealous that they got to go to Woodstock and I didn't. lol

[rufus dog]

8. Can everyone Please take a big deep breath

He is not saying everything that happened in the 60s was good or bad. His point is that those coming of age in the 60s and early 70s seem to be deeply divided. And GOD FUCKING DAMN IT we mother fucking lived through the 90's with those fights over every fucking stinking issue. Midnight Bball - FIGHT, Health Care - FIGHT, a fucking blow job - FIGHT, Environmental Issues - FIGHT, Send a missile to Iraq - FIGHT. Anything the Clinton's did created a fight and those fighting them were the same pricks that were the wussies sitting in the dorm room pissed off at the war protesters. So everything became a fight. Then these little pricks won in 2000 and shoved their neo nazi crap through.

DEEP BREATH

So what he is saying is the generation/group/whatever, will fight over EVERYTHING, and based upon the 90's he has a very good argument. The point being that it is time to move on. Hillary and Bill are targets, if Bill would have said hell yes I inhaled and moved on and laughed at them for all of their incorrect points and assumptions maybe he would not have been a target. It has absolutely nothing to do with the age of the person, it has everything to do with the presentation.

[polichick]

10. So he'd rather divide Democrats than himself from the Republicans...

They can have him imo. The social changes of the 60s sure didn't happen because we played nice with Republicans ~ they've tried to undo most of the changes.

He probably means well ~ but there's a lot he doesn't seem to get.

[maximusveritas]

15. Great post

It seems like some people are twisting his words and trying to read in their own biases. I've read his words over and over again and fail to see what these people are talking about. I guess it's just another political game.

[dflprincess]

12. I don't think it's a generational thing

I think it's just that Obama has been part of a Congress that thinks surrender is compromise. And once upon a time, Boomers would not surrender.

[polichick]

13. BINGO...

I think that might be it. :)

[CyberPieHole]

16. Kick and recommend...

I don't really see the benefit to dividing Democrats between "us" and "them". It could not help in the long run. Democrats NEED the votes of people who are older than Gen-Xers (and the votes of everyone for that matter)...insulting boomers won't help one get those votes.

[polichick]

18. You're right...

I'm upset about Obama arrogantly taking for granted what the older boomers did for him and all of us ~ but, strictly from a tactical viewpoint, it was just pure stupid.

[dflprincess]

19. And when it comes to who shows up at the polls,

Boomers still have the opportunity to be "the lump in the python".

[caligirl]

20. Brokaw is speaking right now at the Rio Theater in Santa Cruz to a sold out audience.