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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:07 PM
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What generation is Obama?
Isn't he a baby boomer?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:09 PM
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1. Yes, boomers were born from 1945-1964...
Obama was born in 1961.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:09 PM
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2. OOPS! LOL!
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 07:10 PM by Lirwin2
How embarassing. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:11 PM
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4. D'OH!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:01 PM
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41. Me too
That's why I found his statement so repulsive.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:10 PM
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3. No...baby boomers are those
born in the 40s I believe. Obama was born like 20 years after that. Because I know he's said he's too young to remember the Civil Rights Movement as if he actively followed it and such.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:13 PM
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5. Wrong.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:13 PM
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6. You are kidding aren't you? n/t
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:14 PM
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7. 1946
is the start of the boomer generation when WWW2 ended, the GI's came home, and started their familes, hence baby boom. It extends into the 1950s and early 1960s.

Prior to 1946 they are considered "war babies".
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:14 PM
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8. 1946 to 1964
try google.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:15 PM
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9. Yes
A baby boomer is a person (human) born between 1945 and 1964 in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, or Australia.

He qualifies.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:15 PM
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10. The last year for Baby Boomers was 1957....I should know...
...that includes me. 1964 is wrong, don't know how Wikpedia got that. So, Obama ain't no boomer.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:18 PM
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14. My sister and I have always considered
ourselves boomers, just barely. 1961 and 1963.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:24 PM
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23. I always figured I was lucky just to sneak in...
...if it's considered a postwar "boom" including anything past 10 years after the war ended seems like a stretch. Anyway, Obama is close enough, and Hillary is a young-looking 60 anyway.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:45 PM
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34. 1963
and I ain't no 'boomer'. I have a lot more in common with 'gen x' than I do boomers. Early sixties is pushing it, IMO.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:18 PM
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15. from the census bureau...
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:18 PM
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16. Baby Boomer Headquarters lists the same years
http://www.bbhq.com/bomrstat.htm

So does this article in the Mobile Harbinger.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:19 PM
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17. The end date is usally in the 1960-1964 range
I'm Obama's age and I have always considered myself a tail-end boomer.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:22 PM
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20. Most books on boomers use 1945 or 46-1964. nt
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:32 PM
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28. Yes, the WHOLE world is WRONG...Yet, YOU are right...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomer

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/006105.html

Can you show me proof that the "last year for Baby Boomers was 1957"? I am curious to know the facts (as you see them).
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM
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11. When people think of baby boomer they think of people who were young in the 1960's
not those who were born in the 1960s.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:21 PM
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18. Yes, often the case.
But technically, someone has determined that it includes people born up to 1966. Somehow that seems to young to be a "boomer." Anyone born that late didn't have the awareness to really experience or understand the significance of the big events like Kennedy's assassination, MLK's assassination, RFK's assassination, the Civil Rights March on Washington, D.C., Vietnam protests, etc.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM
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12. Generation Vexed
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:23 PM
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22. Lol, so it would seem. nt
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM
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13. Is this supposed to refer to the 60s activists statement Obama made?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:21 PM
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19. US Census Bureau says 1946-1964
In 2006, the oldest of the baby boomers, the generation born between 1946 and 1964, will turn 60 years old. Among the Americans celebrating their 60th will be our two most recent presidents, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Other well-known celebrities reaching this milestone include Cher, Donald Trump, Sylvester Stallone and Dolly Parton. To commemorate this occasion, the Census Bureau has compiled a collection of facts relating to, perhaps, our most celebrated generation.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/006105.html
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:23 PM
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21. Just so you know -
A quote from a NY Times article dated January 21, 2007 -

"In taking the first steps toward a presidential candidacy last week, Mr. Obama, who was born in 1961 and considers himself a member of the post-boomer generation..."

In other words, he made up a new definition in preparation for his run.

Another quote from the article quoting a man who worked on the Carter, Dukakis and Mondale campaigns - "I don't know that voters really care about these issues of the baby boomers versus Generation X. It's a nice sort of branding, a marketing thing when you're trying to create yourself from nothing."
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:28 PM
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25. That is really pitiful...
Lots of people seem to take their rights for granted, dismissing those who fought for them. Neither Hillary nor Obama would be viable candidates today with those pesky fights of the 60s.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:27 PM
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24. I'm born in 1961 like Obama...
and actually, many call us "generation Jones" or the "lost generation" which is the early 60's I think.
We're not really boomers, or gen X. I think it fits.
Just depends on which reference you use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:29 PM
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27. Census bureau. nt.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:35 PM
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30. Oh, I thought you really wanted an answer...
sorry, I didn't realize you were looking to dis him because you've already decided on Clinton.
Stoopid me. I think people are actually open-minded...:eyes:
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:28 PM
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26. Obama is a Baby-Boomer...who can't add...
Baby boomers were born between 1945 and 1964 inclusive. Obama was born in 1961. He is a baby boomer, as is Senator Clinton who was born in 1947. They are generational contemporaries. Obama is NOT Gen-Y. Perhaps his inexperience confuses him sometimes.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:35 PM
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29. He seems to be trying to sell himself as a GenXer
Maybe in an attempt to seem younger than the other candidates. It's falling flat.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:36 PM
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31. I'd like to get out of that generation. Image of being a slacker. nt.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:47 PM
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35. It's a bad stereotype
I'm on the early fringe of GenX myself, though most would hardly associate me with it.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:38 PM
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32. Let me put it this way... I'm almost exactly Obama's age and I grew up expecting to die in Vietnam
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 07:39 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
The war was there when I first became aware of the news, and it continued, year after year, as I entered adolescence and reaching age 18 seemed less and less distant.

I was way too young to attend Woodstock, but not too young to be aware of civil rights, the environment, the assassinations of RFK and MLK, etc.

My political sensibilities were shaped by the 1960s. (which really continued until Watergate)
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:02 PM
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36. Precocious, I guess
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 08:22 PM by frazzled
If you are Obama's age, you would have been 7 years old in 1968, the height of all the 60s furor. (I was 18 and in college then--tear gas at antiwar rallies in New York, the terror of King and Kennedy, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, a friend cutting off a toe to avoid the draft). The war was already over by the time you were 14 ... so how could you grow up expecting to die in Vietnam?

You must have been far more precocious than I was. I recently had a vague recollection of being taken into the school gymnasium during first grade ... I was 7 then ... and sitting cross-legged in my little smocked dress to watch Eisenhower's second inauguration. That's it, snap: I was born in 1950, but would never think of myself as part of the Eisenhower generation. I recall snippets of watching a Democratic convention with Adlai Stevenson, and Chet Huntley and John Chancellor working the floor. But this was not my generation, it was my parents'. I was a sixties flower child (who moved on to other things after that period), and I consider myself a "middle" boomer. I was only 13 or 14 during the Civil Rights movement, and although my family and my religious institution followed it closely, it was a bit before my time to participate in. Ditto the free speech movement.

So we all define ourselves, and we define others. I would consider Obama, who is 11 years younger than me, to be of a different generation.

Talking 'Bout My Generation, you know.

(If you want to know what the boomer generation looks like, you should have been at this concert in Healdsburg, CA the other night: Country Joe McDonald and Ray Manzarek: wow, silver hair and bald spots all over the place. I felt incredibly young!

ON EDIT: As an undisputed boomer, I should add that I like Obama, and am not terribly bothered by his statements.

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:18 PM
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40. I had never known a world without Vietnam and the draft, so what else could I expect?
That was the only world I had ever seen... I saw no reason to think the war would end before I turned 18 because it had always been there. LIFE or LOOK had the pictures of the dead every week.

If I were a child in a mining town I would have expected to someday work in the mine.

Maybe I was precocious, by my ideas of the world were very much shaped by the riots in DC, and Vietnam on TV, and the sexual revolution. (You didn't need to be sexually mature to be affected by it!)

I figure that a person born in 1964 would have a very different experience, but 1961 was plenty of time to be shaped by the 60s.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:04 PM
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37. The Selective service was still
active when I turned 18, IIRC.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:39 PM
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33. the Pepsi generation, number two behind.....that other cola nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:05 PM
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38. If he identifies as an American, he is a Baby Boomer
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:09 PM
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39. he is at the very end tip of boomers. However, as one I have long thought the same
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