Danger: 47% in California support dividing CA electoral votes. 34% oppose

[antiimperialist]

There has to be a way to explain to these people the real motives behind this move and the consequences it will bring if passed.

Survey USA notes that they did not ask the question about the specific California ballot initiative being cooked by the GOP, but this is not encouraging news.
Conducted Nov 2-5

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=5b6c9b07-4247-432e-ae34-4ff8c07cd0f8

[AX10]

1. K & R!

[OffWithTheirHeads]

2. Oh Puleeezzzeee. Stop with the be afraid shit

I would be willing to bet that less than 30% of registered Ca. voters even know about the Puke plan. The only ones even paying attention are junkies like us.

[Der Blaue Engel]

4. Unfortunately, the ones not paying attention often still vote

and vote stupidly.

[depakid]

35. And almost nowhere that I've been is this truer than in California

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this passed.

[Throd]

3. As a Californian, I support it...

...on the condition that every other state follow suit.

[racaulk]

5. Exactly

If *every* state followed it, then the Electoral College would more closely follow the popular vote. The EC has far outlived its usefulness, IMHO.

[K8-EEE]

6. I thought this thing was dead??

WTF?? Didn't the backers pull the money for lack of support?

[pnwmom]

8. Yes, but new backers put it out there again. n/t

[Fovea]

9. Issa, in his role as the puggie party's bitch

is bankrolling the new effort.

[antiimperialist]

7. I don't support it, even if all states do it. Here is why

Having a popular vote system, is very different from this initiative. Democrats dominate fewer districts with more people. That's the key to understand why Republicans want this to pass. If you drew a map you will see a lot more red districts than blue, but that's because Republicans own a zillion of large deserted districts when it comes to surface area, but not a lot of inhabitants.

[Capn Sunshine]

34. Hey, let's support it as long as we split CA into three states

Northern, Central and Southern California.
That's four more senators guys.

Yeah, keep fucking with us.

[robinlynne]

10. 47% of what?

[antiimperialist]

12. 47% of California registered voters (nt)

[robinlynne]

14. bullshit.

[antiimperialist]

17. Dude, Survey USA just predicted today's KY Gov. elections accurately

SUSA poll: Beshear 59%-39%
Election results: Beshear 59%-41

granted, the initiative is not in the ballot and it won't be voted on tomorrow, but as of today, people in CA are in the dark about this and are playing with fire.

[robinlynne]

20. according to the poll, they asked a generic question about the electoral college.

to 1700 people. They did not identify the iniative and say clearly that the results do not say that people would support that particular iniative.

[antiimperialist]

21. I'm hoping that's the reason why

God forbid they pull a 2000 on us again.

[robinlynne]

24. oh, that they will. How I don't know.

[K8-EEE]

28. This got totally pummelled when it was asked of CA voters

in a specific manner--that's why they ditched it originally.

[robinlynne]

31. well, not exactly. they ditched it because a lawsuit for fraud was brought up against the

principal funder and he ditched it. They had to go find new money.
I know the courage campaign put out an email saying "we did it", but that was wishful thinking.

[robinlynne]

16. na na na na. no. the survey was of 1700 people, and they were asked a generic question about

the electoral college. NOT if they want california's votes to be divided. This my friend, is a democratic state. This shit is not going to roll with california's voters. no way. no how. Unfortunately, moeny will ahv to be spent to explain what the iniatiative is, since the republicans are spending big bucks to get it through. But that is NOWHERE near saying that 47% of california voters agree with the iniative.

[antiimperialist]

19. That's a good point. Another recent poll showed opposition

when the wording included the GOP. Was it Zogby?

[robinlynne]

22. we are democrats. as soon as it becomes a real question to vote on, all democrats will

say it is bad, all republicans will say it is good, and that will be the end of that.

[robinlynne]

23. don't know. haven't seen any polls on it.

[caligirl]

11. Want to stop this?" go here>>>

http://www.nodirtytricks.com/
Bradley Whitford(Westwing fame)does a nice commercial telling about the scheme.
http://www.youtube.com/user/CourageCampaign

[IndianaGreen]

13. If you don't like it, then abolish the Electoral College!

I would like to see my own state adopt a similar proposal while we wait for the Constitutional amendment to abolish the EC.

[antiimperialist]

15. I understand rooting for the popular vote. But this crap?

Explain your motives.

[robinlynne]

18. This is a republican scheme to take away 20 votes from california.

[IndianaGreen]

32. Winner-take-all is undemocratic

We should be pushing for this in red states until the Electoral College is repealed through a Constitutional amendment.

[w4rma]

25. They will cut their own throats. Ignorant. (nt)

[JI7]

26. people in California including Democrats are stupid

that's how that asshole is Governor. and why these propositions often pass. they are easily fooled by the gross media which pretty much runs the elections.

i say this as someone who is from California.

[CreekDog]

37. Us stupid people rejected all 5 of Arnold's initiatives back in 2005

So, us stupids get it right occasionally.

[Andromeda]

39. Yeeeeeeah...

Arnie got his butt kicked royaly!

[JI7]

40. but i'm still angry at the so called Dems who supported recall

of Davis. they were such ignorant assholes.

[Mz Pip]

27. If I were

asked some generic question about revamping the electoral college system then sure, I would voice support for such a measure.

Now if I were asked "Do you favor cherry picking States to assure a GOP victory?, then my anwser would be NO FUCKING WAY.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[K8-EEE]

29. EXACTLY!!! This has NO SUPPORT IN CA.

None....there's been a lot of play on it too, lots of radio play, people know exactly what's up.

[thatsrightimirish]

30. eh

people in LA and the Bay Area will vote it down and that is enough

[CalebHayes]

33. Is this on the ballot yet?

[CreekDog]

36. Not enough, experts say passing an initiative requires 70%+ support out of the gate

Because support drops off until election day, also, lingering doubts or questions turn into "no" votes on the initiative.

Have seen this many times.

[DeepModem Mom]

38. K&R

[JCMach1]

41. This effort is unconstitutional... only the Legislature has the power

to decide how electors are chosen!

[sss1977]

42. The electoral college system

IS BULLSHIT. I think this poll just shows a good percentage of us feel that way.