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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:26 PM Original message |
Poll question: Poll: Driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants? |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. "I am very much in favor of fixing our boarder problems" |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It was a typo. Thanks for pointing it out. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does anyone else see this as real problem for us? |
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john4012 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Drivers licenses |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. This is an additional serious problem with the issue. Republicans |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. . |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I have been saying for 6 months that the pukes were going to make this THE issue in the |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I agree. If I was them, I would run on the issue and it will probably |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
76. You are so right! Dems must not allow themselves to be drawn into the debate on it. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I think its too late to avoid the issue. I just learned Biden |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. What did Biden say? Is there a link to his ideas on immigration reform? |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Here's a link. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree with YOU on ALL points. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I thought he was an excellent AG. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Spitzer has turned out to be lousy, arrogant, tyrannical Governor......... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a weird concept |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. why do we need a driver's license? |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Also you can't get auto insurance without a license. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You really think many illegal aliens are going to be seeking a |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. No but more will buy insurance than if they continue unlicensed |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. The fine here for driving without insurance is $800 |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I doubt they get prosecuted much on this type of charge. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. I seriously doubt you live here |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I do not live in KS if that is the state you are speaking of. |
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Bennyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. In CA you can't get a DL |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. That is not correct |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
78. Sure, so would I. But are you willing to lose the election on this issue? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
81. In New Haven, we have taken care of your # 2, as we have resident ID cards |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. There is no reason for a presidential candidate to have a position. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. But it won't stop there. The Pukes are getting ready to make illegal immigration their platform for |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. That's kind of a cop out. And they have already taken a position. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. The driver's license becomes a federal matter when the license |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree that it would be politically difficult to advocate any so-called benefit... |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. How "difficult"? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I think that is an overstatement... |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Oh, Thank you Elmer! |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Hillary and all but Dodd will be seen as supporting the concept |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. You need an "other." I don't support the concept except as a safety measure in the current crises |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. My thoughts exactly. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
79. Oh, stop being so rational! You and I both know being rational on this issue |
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LVZ (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. Good policy? Bad policy? I don't care. It is dumb politically |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
24. I support DL for undocumented immigrants |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Do see this issue hurting our chances at winning the Whitehouse? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I see it as an education issue |
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LVZ (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Education is fine for those IN POWER, otherwise NUANCE is a losing proposition in elections |
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Orangeone (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. It's the same mindset |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. So are you suggesting it will not hurt our chances? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I'm saying I think it won't |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I doubt that will hold up. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. And I think your attitude |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Isn't this a web site for Democrats? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. People who oppose them on this board tend to be from non-border states |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Your post suggest you have a sense of how this issue is viewed here. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. I think California qualifies as a border state |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. So making sure no one can get it if they are undocumented is the answer? nt |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. thecatburgler |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Looks like they're not. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I did not say they should be able to get some kind of driver's license |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
82. And do we really KNOW that undocumented drivers cause more accidents than citizens? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Is this supposed to be a response to something I wrote? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. ooops, I may have responded incorrectly! Sorry. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
52. I see a flaw in your logic |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
83. They have to learn them to get the license |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yes, and... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. And refusing to let them get licenses is a better idea? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. One more time with feeling... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
62. Thank you |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Do you think allowing them licenses will encourage, discourage |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. They don't come here to get drivers licenses |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That may be a good way, but I doubt it's the "only way." |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. politically, no ... common sense wise, yes |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. What do you mean by "It better not"? |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. I'm for it |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Giving someone a license doesn't make them a safer driver |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. if the climate collapses, borders will be meaningless. let's |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. I see lots of wrecks in Charlotte, |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Do you think this is going to get better or worse under a Republican |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I'm not interested in capturing the votes |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
48. Not enough choices, so I voted Against - explanation follows |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Sorry I did not have a better choice for you. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. If the stigma would prevent someone from applying, I say tough shit |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I hope the Dems running now take a look at what happened in |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. My state, Arizona, changed the ID requirements for voter registration |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. Our New Haven city resident ID card cannot be used to register to vote. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. That's a good idea. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Adequate voting machines that work, vigorous enforcement of laws |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. I want them to have insurance |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
66. I am surprised by these results. Are they |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. I guarantee the proportions would be reversed, |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. So you do not think these numbers are a fair |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Well, I think they are, sort of. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I agree that not giving illegals licenses will not keep them |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
97. I think dems will fix it, but first they have to get ELECTED! |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. I agree with you. Kinda sad reflection on this community n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
94. It's up to the state |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Do you think this issue will hurt us? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
95. Would the driving license be like an occupational license? |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
98. kick |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
99. kick |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
100. kick |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
101. The notion of issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens - |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I agree that it will kill our chances. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. do you think all "illegal aliens" should be deported -- every last one of them? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. If someone turns up to apply for a license and they're an illegal alien, |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. so, again, do you favor a "don't ask, don't tell" policy? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. If I had the solution I wouldn't be a struggling, self-employed person |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. The more important thing to address is stooping the number of |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
103. kick |
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