At the last minute, Hillary doesn't do Vogue

[DeepModem Mom]

Media Bistro: Hillary Doesn't Do Vogue

Senator Hillary Clinton is clearly targeting the women's demographic, but not the Vogue demographic. It probably doesn't mesh well with her blue collar and working class fighter image. From Liz Smith of The NY Post:

"The brains' surrounding Hillary Clinton didn't make any friends last Friday at Conde Nast when they balked on a firm, long-standing commitment to let the candidate pose for Vogue, while the astute Julia Reed hung ten waiting to write about her and the giant fotog Annie Leibovitz had her cameras at the ready for nothing.

A source inside Hillary's camp supposedly informed the Vogue contingent they'd decided some time ago not to honor the commitment, but Vogue wasn't told until the last minute."

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/ (Scroll down.)

[saracat]

1. And isn't that inconsiderate of her. I understand her not doing it but not to let anyone know?

That is just classless and rude. I guess that is because the polling indicates that the upper income women who read Vogue aren't voting for her."More" magazine had an article referencing the fact that professional women do not support Hillary. But she should have let them know.I think she should pay Annie Liebowitz for her time and all the drtessers and set up folks. Queen Hillary is just too self important.

[incapsulated]

2. Now we are insulted on behalf of Conde Nast

I swear if Hillary forgot to call and wish Newt Gingrich a Happy Birthday you would call her an inconsiderate bitch.

I also very much doubt upper-income women dislike Hillary.

[saracat]

3. October "more" magazine" aticle entitled "Our Hillary Problem". Article is positive for Hillary but

data in the article regarding the support of educated women professions is quoted froma Wp/ ABC News Poll and a NYTimes /CBS Poll. Sorry you don't like the conclusions.

[incapsulated]

5. I remember OLD data suggesting this

I don't know of any recent polling.

However, the argument that she doesn't need them wasn't made, you made it.

If anything, she is shying away from the "rich and fabulous" kind of image that a Vogue cover would project. It's normally reserved for actresses and the like, not serious politicians. A Vanity Fair cover, though, would be fine.

[incapsulated]

7. Anyway, it sounds like someone forgot to make a call, is all

They said they decided this a while ago so they fucked up and didn't call it off before the last minute.

I'm sure Vogue will recover.

[saracat]

9. But what of all the "little people"' that gave up their time? I guess they don't matter.

Someone on Hillary's staff was too busy to be concerned with the "invisable" Americans.

[incapsulated]

12. Vogue is made up of "little people"?

lol.

Yeah, I'll bet Hillary just single handedly ruined that publication.

This wasn't a little house party she didn't show up at, it was the premiere fashion magazine in the world.

[saracat]

13. It was a photo shoot and employs makeup artists set dressesrs gofers secretaries and

all kinds of people who had to sit there doing nothing. Their time counts too.

[incapsulated]

14. They were hired by Vogue

And they will be paid by Vogue for their time.

[saracat]

16. That is not the point. They could have been doing something else. I am not personally blaming

Hillary for this but it was a phone call for God's sake. And they knew for months. It was like it wasn't important and they didn't care.And they probably didn't. This makes her look like Leona Helmsley. And I can assure you those people who wadsted their time on the shoot are NOT happy.it is not just about money.But I guess some don't understand.What if they missed another prestigious opportunity to twiddle their thumbs? I would be really pissed.

[incapsulated]

17. rofl

My god, the outrage over something that celebrities pull all the fucking time.

Now, if they get paid for sitting around a few hours, if that even happened, I call that a good day in general. You get paid without having to work.

And FYI the people who work on these shoots are generally the elite of their profession from the hair stylists to the makeup people, not some working class shmoe.

[saracat]

19. Apparently you have never worked on a photo shoot. This is a completely uninformed analysis.

And since when is it acceptable for Hillary to behave like Brittney Spears or Paris Hilton? And you can call it a good day if you like but it isn't about money. It is about Time and Opportunity denied. Neither can be replaced. All it took was a phone call.Like I said,you apparently haven't got any experience with photo shoots in order to make this judgement.

[incapsulated]

25. Actually, I have

Although never for such a RICH and FAMOUS publication as Vogue.

If you knew anything about the fashion business, you would know that for a celebrity shoot like this they would have rather famous stylists working on it, not someone they pulled out of the yellow pages, for chrissakes.

They fucked up. Vogue will eat the cost or send them the bill. People will get paid, even if it was annoying.

Stop making this into anything other than it is, a stupid little story.

[saracat]

29. It wasn't "my " story. And I have actually been at a Vogue shoot and worked in NY for

a brief time in fashion.It isn't my bailiwick but I still have friends in the industry and it is about the opportunity. it is a dog eat dog industry and those people while some are well known others aren't and especially for the well known who are clawing to stay aheaD, A "MISSED' OPPORTUNITY, WHEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON someone else IS INFURIATING. Oops. not shouting. Sorry to hit the "caps" key!

[incapsulated]

30. For a Annie Lebowitz shoot of HIllary Clinton

I very much doubt there was anyone working who wasn't already well known and respected in their profession. Nothing is left to novices on a shoot like this.

And if backup stylist B didn't get his big chance that day, well welcome to the real world. Expect a lot more of it.

I really can't believe I'm even arguing something so silly.

[saracat]

32. So it is acceptable to stand the people up? You actually think Hillary is more important than they

are , don't you? Maybe the campaign should apologize. Maybe this was rude and a mistake. Whatever. the fact it may happen doesn't make it right.

[incapsulated]

33. I said they fucked up, didn't I?

How do you know they didn't apologize? How do you know anything about this other than this little blurb?

If you want outrage over her campaign fucking up Vogue's shit, I'm sorry but it really isn't on my list of things worth getting upset about, you know, with people dying and all. Or even my own damn problems.

I'm sure no one has ever in their lives in the fashion industry had to deal with such behavior, ever, or had to cancel a shoot. She should be flogged.

[saracat]

34. No need to be snarky. I am just tired of those who think the HRC Campaign can do no wrong.

while they flay all the other campaigns for everything from haircuts to lapel pins. And I did say that I didn't believe this was Hillary personally who neglected this. It wasn't the mistake itself it was the cabalier dismissel of it as thought the folks at the photo shoot didn't matter. For the record, I actually agree with you.There is more important stuff out there to be outraged about!

[BootinUp]

54. yeah, why are you? lol.

I might bookmark it for laughs.

:rofl:

[MonkeyFunk]

52. LOL

My god, your fake outrage is laughable.

Won't somebody think of the stylists?!?! They got paid, but they could've been doing something else!!

[ronnykmarshall]

45. And you KNOW ...

If Hillary had done the Vogue shoot, La Sara would be talking shit about how "out of touch" Hillary is for posing for Vogue.

[XemaSab]

55. I seem to recall reading an article about her in Vanity Fair

that was... shall we say... less than flattering. :P

[Jim Sagle]

4. Miss Manners, is that you?

:boring:

[saracat]

8. I s Hillary more important than Annie Lebowitz or the set dressers and the makeup artist or isn't

their time worth anything? Maybe these are the invisible Americans she keeps talking about.I guess she was unable to see them after all.

[Jim Sagle]

50. More important to me.

[rinsd]

39. Still spreading nasty disinformation I see.

"I guess that is because the polling indicates that the upper income women who read Vogue aren't voting for her."



http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=1203

The largest increases in support for Clinton have come among the following Democratic subgroups: rural residents (+20), women with a college degree (+15), single women (+13), younger women (+12), and those with no children under 18 (+12). Obviously there is much overlap in membership among these groups, but clearly, a stronger appeal to certain subgroups of women within the Democratic Party has been a key to Clinton’s expanded lead.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102436/Women-Key-Growing-Clinton-Lead-Among-Democrats.aspx

[saracat]

44. Hey it wasn't my poll .It was "More" magazine Oct. 2007 p.186 and it references

WAPO/ABC and NYTimes/CBS. It is a conversation with Donna Brazile and Deborah Tannen.It is generally supportive of Hillary. Don't get in such a wad. At least they, while liking her, can allow for the fact not ALL groups do.

[robinlynne]

6. Annie is 75,000.00 per day. I'll bet they're mad!

[saracat]

10. They should send the campaign a bill. I think I will email them and suggest it.!

[ronnykmarshall]

47. You do that.

But of course you're not attacking Hillary.

Are your eyes brown?

[bunnies]

56. You wouldn't be inferring that brown eyed people are full of shit I hope.

Because, as a brown eyed person I'd find that totally fucking rude.

[ronnykmarshall]

66. Sorry ..

I didn't know BELA (Brown Eyed Liberation Army) had so much power.

[emilyg]

11. Who the heck buys Vogue. ?

[saracat]

15. Lots of people. It exists and is profitable.Someone has to be buying it..

[emilyg]

20. Not my friends.

[saracat]

21. So? Hillary did a beautiful December cover her last year in the WH. I still have the issue.

[saracat]

26. Why knock Vogue for the Clinton Campign being inconsiderate?

Hillary doesn't show up and the justification is it doesn't matter because no one reads Vogue? ( which is a ridiculous implication. It is the most famous fashion magazine in the world) It isn't as though Vogue dissed Hillary!

[emilyg]

42. I'm not knocking Vogue. Relax. Just saying i don't know anyone who reads it. ok?

[Forkboy]

36. That's just like the people who say they don't know anyone who supports Clinton.

Now you that maybe they aren't all lying.

[JI7]

22. it's mostly "how to please your man" type crap and other things geared towards wealthy

[saracat]

23. Actually it isn't.It is mostly pages of ads and lots of clothes. I like the fall fashion issue and

thats about it.

[JI7]

24. yes, clothes that mostly the wealthy can afford

[saracat]

27. Clever people spot trends and can make their own style. No one really wears catwalk clothes!

Except maybe Ivanka Trump and Iman. LOL!

[JI7]

28. yes, i enjoy looking at the pics sometimes also

but i just think the "outrage" over this is stupid.

[saracat]

31. Maybe but I think it says a lot about the campign and what they think of other folks.

All campigns are subject to criticism and this is no differnt.There was an upraor over where Edwards located his campaign office too.Whats good for the goose....It just irks me that some justify anything hillary does. Why not just admit this was a mistake and inconsiderate/ instead some blame Vogue itself! Sheesh.it would have taken just a phone call. I guess I have a real pet peeve when my time is taken up like that.Whatever. i would have been furious no matter who did that to me. I was once really pissed off at Elizabeth Kuccinich for a wasted trip and I like her!

[ronnykmarshall]

48. Consider the "rager".

[ellie]

62. I do.

I have been a subscriber for more than 25 years.

[Trajan]

18. That is unfortunate ....

She should have followed through with that commitment ...... ALL soft press is good ....

What is also unfortunate is the crazy notion that polarizing DUers will come to unify behind a candidate of which they proclaim a hatred ....

I am curious how 2008 will look in DU ...... stay tuned ....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. She Should Have Done It...

I think she should have followed through...She did a spread for Vogue several years ago and looked stunning...

[saracat]

43. I still have that issue.She looked great!

[terrya]

37. Christ...she would have been raked over the coals around here...

if she went through with that.

I don't see any problems with her doing the Vogue photo shoot..but I can just imagine the reaction from some quarters...

[hijinx87]

38. of course not. she's too busy being vague to do Vogue

:evilgrin:

shocked that no one has stumbled across that play on words yet.

[mnhtnbb]

46. How funny. We have a winner!

[JNelson6563]

49. clever.

;-)

[Cha]

51. Don't be shocked..you're

too clever for us. :)

[hijinx87]

53. hardly.

but it did pain me a bit to throw a rock
at my own girl. :dilemma:

she's tough. she can handle it. ;)

[Cha]

65. Yeah, well, it's

true. :)

[ddeclue]

63. Funny! You should make a separate top level post!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[zulchzulu]

40. What a hoot!

I was watching the news where Hillary Clinton is "locking up the female vote" and now she's not going to be in Vogue?

:rofl:

OK...I know... next week could change everything... focus group time!

[KittyWampus]

41. My issue is she's just pissed off Vogue. Pissing off the Media who already tends to be hostile

towards Dems isn't a great idea.

And then, standing up Annie Liebowitz. She's got a lot of connections.

This will be gossiped about.

[tammywammy]

57. Well, I don't think that would have been "elitest"

I'm sure she would have looked lovely.

I dislike the fact that it was canceled at the last minute, but that's not something I'm going to hold against Hillary. I'm sure it was a staffers fault anyways and just slipped their mind.

[JDPriestly]

58. Wise decision.

[tammywammy]

60. Why do you think it was wise? n/t

[JDPriestly]

61. Hillary would be ridiculed for appearing in that magazine.

It is viewed by many as appealing to a kind of a superficial, gossipy, but very stylish audience as well as that aspect of us ordinary folks that would like to be superficial, gossipy, stylish. Now, if Chelsea were photographed and featured -- or even Bill -- that would be fine. But to photograph or feature a presidential candidate in a fluffy magazine like Vogue would seem demeaning to the candidate. It would be different if she were featured in a magazine that appealed to ordinary housewives like McCalls or Ladies
Home Journal (if those magazines or similar magazines still exist). It is the frivolous nature of the magazine and the kind of elitist readership that it purports to appeal to (it's appeal is actually broader, of course) and is associated with that would not help a presidential candidate like Hillary. She is already fighting to avoid seeming soft or like just a me-too wife to her accomplished husband. She would be better served by appearing in a different magazine.

[ronnykmarshall]

67. Of course she would.

And guess who would be leading the pack with torches and pitchforks?

[rucky]

59. Bad strategic move.

Cover of Vogue would've been huge.

[Major Hogwash]

64. Hillary won't "honor her commitment" - wow, no big surprise there!

Wait until you see all the campaign promises she won't honor later, either!!

How is it the Number 1 benefactor of defense contractors is the leading Democratic nominee?

How is it the Number 1 benefactor of insurance companies is the leading Democratic nominee?

How is it the Number 1 benefactor of lobbyists is the leading Democratic nominee?

How is it the Number 1 benefactor of pharmacies is the leading Democratic nominee?

How is it the Number 1 benefactor of healthcare providers - HMO's - is the leading Democratic nominee?

[baseballhead]

68. Most normal women

don't have the time or the inclination to read VOGUE. We are busy living real lives and not worrying about whether our Prada bag goes with our Jimmy Choos because we don't own either. I'm glad she said "No, thank you".

[Enrique]

69. I hope Tim Russert nails her on this flip-flop