Anyone think the Giuliani/Edwards/Obama strategy to derail Sen. Clinton will work?

[IndianaJones]

They seem to be sharing the same playbook. With the likes of Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Morris.

[TwilightGardener]

1. You've got to be shitting me.

[TSIAS]

2. How clever

It looks like we have an actual campaign now, and that scares the dickens out of the Clinton team.

[Basileus Basileon]

3. Nice smear-by-association attempt there.

She's the frontrunner. All people opposed to her--R or D--have an interest in weakening her.

[Ronnie]

4. Tennis

It reminds me of tennis when opposition players keep hitting at a player's weak spot. Eventually, the weakness becomes a strength.

[emilyg]

7. Yes. It's a good learning experience.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

18. OMG! Those doggies are SOOOOO cute!

Sorry to stray off topic...;)

[panader0]

5. Quite a stretch there buddy

Obama and Edwards are in cahoots with Guiliani? Paranoid.

[jmp]

6. Boy, Camp Hillary must be desperate.

She must have really been "battered" in that debate. ;)

[Bitwit1234]

9. Ha ha ha what a bunch of crap Hillary MUST be desperate

looks like Obama is crapping in his pants. He sure doesn't know what to do if you watch him...but his so called bashing is having the opposite effect. Whoop de doo doo de hey Obmaa go buy some more diapers.

[AndyA]

8. The only one responsible for Hillary's derailment, if it happens, is Hillary.

Face it, she can't keep her stories straight.

She's either for the war in Iraq, or she isn't. She did vote for it, and yes I know Edwards did as well, but he at least admitted he made a huge mistake, and regrets it very much. Hillary has only said she shouldn't have trusted "this President." Well, duh, Hillary, yet you voted to give Bush leverage over Iran. Didn't learn much from the first go round, did ya?

Is she for the D.L.'s for illegals or not? Which side of that is she on today?

I'm most ill at ease with Hillary taking big bucks from lobbyists and big corporations, though. You know they are going to be expecting something from her for that cash. And I know whatever it is they'll want, it won't be in my best interests, or most who read this unless you're a CEO or in the top percentage of wealth in this country.

We've got that with Bush, why would I want Hillary in office to extend the abuse another 4-8 years? Forget it! I WANT CHANGE. John Edwards will change the direction this country is headed.

[PurityOfEssence]

23. Aw, that's not fair. She might not be in the pocket of the corporatists who've bought her...

She might welch on the deal.

[MethuenProgressive]

10. Karl Rove isn't retired - he's scripting the Giuliani/Edwards/Obama strategy.

If it quacks like a duck...

[mitchtv]

12. Why not?

It worked well for Arnold and the dem primary losers in Calif.

[PurityOfEssence]

24. Seems to me a lot of Clinton supporters have been IRATE to have her name associated with Bush...

Somehow this is fine, though.

[cobalt1999]

11. When isn't the strategy to go after the front-runner has hard as possible?

I support Hillary, but if she can't weather the storm and survive, then she isn't going to survive the republicans.

If Hillary was behind in the polls to the guys, she'd be hitting him much harder than these guys are doing to her.

All is fair in love, war, and politics.

[cascadiance]

13. So tell me where Newt, Rush, Dick, Guliani are against corporation power and poverty...

I think you are getting the playbooks mixed up.

It is the Clinton crowd that wants to maintain the corporatocracy status quo along with the Rethugs... Not folks like Edwards.

[saracat]

14. Typical nastiness from the Hillary camp. Hillary gets slapped so anyone

who disagrees with her is a republican.Thanks for proving all the negative accustions about her.

[polichick]

20. The Hillary camp really is nasty, even here...

What's up with that??

[Tactical Progressive]

25. Ohhh, poor little crybaby Hillary-haters

'They compared us to Republicans! That's so nasty!'

LOL! Being compared to Republicans is about the nicest thing Hillary and her supporters get around here.


Try this:

"cold-hearted bitch", "the lesser of two evils is still evil", "two-faced weasel", "that edgy bitch tone", ...

That was from maybe twenty minutes of casual reading yesterday on just a handful of threads. Hillary and her supporters face thousands upon thousands of that kind of real nastiness every day on Democratic Underground. Is that the kind of thing you're getting reams of every day from Hillary supporters?

I didn't think so.

But here you are whining about the slightest little insult, and with the gall to proclaim that the reverse is true.


Hillary-haters can't even take the heat by the door to the kitchen. I think maybe they are just too sensitive to play in the big leagues. I'm also pretty sure it's about time for them to get back a little of what they'be been giving out. Crybaby bullies don't like that, but at least then when they whine about all the 'nastiness' it will be real.

[Vincardog]

15. Yes I hope so. Can i get an autographed copy of that book?

[Stop Cornyn]

16. Giuliani is doing everything in his power to promote Hillary as our nominee.

[PaDem]

21. Bingo

It boggles the mind that we might step in it yet again. HRC has absolutely no shot to beat Rudy Guliani in a general election. He knows it, and some other slimeballs working on their side know it. One of these go arounds, we'll nominate someone who can win a general election.

[Renew Deal]

17. Well, this is a new tack

I guess claiming there isno difference between Hillary and everyone else didn't work.

[AzDar]

19. Their 'strategy ' seems to be telling the truth...got that from Newt did they?

:puke:

[PurityOfEssence]

22. Then again, if radically different people arrive at the same conclusion, it MIGHT just be correct.

Have you ever thought of that?

This is treacherously close to intimating that Edwards and Obama are in league with Giuliani. Using similar methods, I'd just like to remind you that not being careful in phrasing accusations could open one up to being defined as one who disingenuously smears by association.

[weeve]

26. Let's hope it works !!

The Republicans woukld like nothing more for Hillary to be the nominee. She simultaneously energizes their base, while deflating ours. In fact she could likely lose our side their Congressional majorities. Edwards and Obama are trying to prevent that from happening. It's fairly simple ... shouldn't we go with the most elecable candidate, instead of the least ?

[jefferson_dem]

27. So anyone who dare criticize Hillary is akin to those repug fuckers?

Not cool.

[ChiciB1]

31. So NOT Cool... But IF Anyone Has Been Paying Attention... I Think

they would realize that's been MSM who has been her main Parade! Now, she actually makes a mistake THEY can't ignore and anyone who hasn't supported her will be chided for piling on!!

Give Me A Break!! I've been sickened by the Hillary Hype for so long I actually stopped watching most news and decided NOT to respond to any threads regarding her here lately!

Now, she's crying FOUL or Gotcha because she was with MEN!! IF she didn't know she was going to be the only woman BEFORE this, than what does that say about her ability to run a country??? On top of that she's trying to spin this every which way, but STRAIGHT! It's a sad thing to say, but she sounds so much like what's running the WH now!! Change the subject when you don't like what's on your plate!

Sorry, I've had enough of THAT to last a lifetime!!!

[PresidentObama]

28. Comparing Obama and Edwards to Gingrich and Morris? Cheap tactics to overshadow poor debating by HRC

Tisk, tisk.

[Az_lefty]

29. Biden's the one to beat Clinton in Iowa...

He rightfully attacked rotten-rudy rather than Hillary. While the others are squabbling with each other, he's going to win Iowa and go on to win the White House.

[ecstatic]

30. It will backfire... for sure... nt

[superkia]

32. I would say that its Clintons own actions that derail her, the people...

you named aren't answering the questions and voting for her. She has to stand up and defend her choices and tell her supporters to stop pointing fingers at the others, it only lessens her and shows weakness. The debate showed the front runner getting caught up in a DEBATE where you have to answer questions, if she cant handle the other night, she has no business running against the republicans. If this is how the GE will go with her as the nominee, we are looking at another republican president and that will be a very bad thing. I hope her and her supporters don't keep playing the cry and point fingers game and that she is being attacked because our country needs true leadership.