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kad7777 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:46 AM
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Why I Like JOE BIDEN for President
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 07:49 AM by kad7777
I came across this on Daily Kos, and wanted to share it. Written the morning following the Democratic debate.

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Why I Like Biden For President
by Kat Maloo

Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 10:53:32 AM PDT

I am new to Blogging, but decided to get involved as we approach the next presidential election because I am outraged over the state of our government, our country, and the world. I'm hoping that by sharing my thoughts on issues, I'll become more engaged and more informed.

As a woman, I am happy that another woman is finally running for president, and that she just might win. But after some soul searching, I’ve realized that I must support a different candidate, at least in the primaries. Although I appreciate Hillary’s intelligence, her efforts on healthcare, her position on abortion, and the sacrifices she has made for this country, I lack confidence in whether she speaks her mind. I do not like some of her political connections. And I am very angry that she voted in favor of naming the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. She articulated her reasons for her vote last night, and they were sensible, but only in a different context, a context that does not include Bush and his hawkish cronies.

Obama talks the talk, but, to me, only in sound bites. His answers lack depth, and spontaneity. It appears to me that he must always stay on his canned message, because he lacks a full grasp of all the issues and does not wish to risk sounding the fool. Not a bad policy, but I don’t want our next president spending his or her first six months in office getting up to speed. And Obama’s answer last night when questioned about Romney’s confusion over his name was bizarre. His long winded response indicated to me a lack of self confidence. It indicated insecurity about his image.—What about simply acknowledging that people get confused about names from time to time, or joking about the fact that Obama is apparently on Romney’s mind—A lot. And yes, Obama stood against going to war with Iraq back in the day, but not in Congress. He lacks experience generally, and foreign relations experience in particular.

I do not subscribe to the notion that what we need in politics is more people without experience and know how. I think what we need is more experienced politicians, but with consciences and convictions, and with a sense of duty or obligation to the electorate they supposedly serve. We need politicians who respect the law and understand it. We need people who are willing to work hard. Maybe then we would see politicians working together for us for a change.

Edwards? I liked aspects of his campaign, particularly on domestic issues. But he also lacks experience in foreign policy—and it is not reassuring that while serving on the Intelligence Committee during the run-up to the Iraq war, he seemed wholly removed from the process. But after last night, I think Edwards is out.

Senator Biden is a different story. A couple months ago, I watched Senator Biden respond to a question about gun rights. The so-called question was really a psycho pro gun statement. The speaker, while cradling an automatic assault weapon, asked what each candidate’s position was with respect to taking away his "baby." Other candidates responded carefully to the question. Senator Biden said "if that’s his baby he needs help." I thought first that Biden was absolutely right about the guy needing help, but also wow, this candidate actually speaks his mind. This incident made me take another, and more serious, look at Senator Biden as a candidate.

Initially, I was worried about his stance on abortion. But, while I still do not agree with him on the issue of late-term abortion, his stance on Roe v. Wade is reassuring. I was also extremely unhappy to learn that he voted for the Patriot Act, but just about everyone did. And more recently, Senator Biden has voted against extending the Patriot Act’s wire tapping provisions. He also voted for requiring the CIA to provide reports on their detainees and their treatment of these detainees. He strongly supports habeus corpus, and he voted to preserve it for detainees at Guantanamo. He has also personally sponsored legislation to end U.S. torture. I began to feel, although he does not represent my personal position on all of the issues, that Senator Biden is a humanitarian, that he has a conscience, that supports privacy and rule of law, and that he could be trusted to not trample over our civil liberties—although I wish he was a stronger advocate for civil liberties.

As I explored Senator Biden’s record further, I was pleased to learn that he has generally voted pro-environment. He stood against subsidizing large oil companies. He quite sensibly supported expending the Mercury regulations to include oil and gas smoke stacks. And even more sensibly, he voted against Gail Norton’s appointment. He has actively fought against killing whales. Environmental groups like him.

But what about domestic policy? ...After all, Biden voted for the new bankruptcy restrictions (a black mark) and is close to the credit industry.

After examining his record, it appears that Joe Biden is pretty good on domestic issues. Senator Biden voted against subsidies for corporations that move off-shore. He supports more cops, but he also supports more nurses, and more teachers. He is for Head Start and for making college more accessible financially. He sponsored the Violence Against Women Act, which I believe was an important piece of legislation. And he supports insuring all children and moving towards a health care system capable of providing for everyone.

Senator Biden is not for or against all taxes or for all spending programs. Instead, he takes a reasonable approach to tax and spending issues. He has worked hard to cut wasteful spending, including wasteful military spending, but not funding for our troops or our children. See Debunking The Myth: Which Candidate Will Cut Wasteful Defense Spending? He voted to get rid of the marriage penalty, but he voted to increase tax deductions for college tuition payments.

Important to me, Senator Biden also supports eliminating tax breaks for the top 1%, and he is against raising the Estate Tax. We all know the government is going to have to come after us for more money, despite all the republican promises of no new taxes. I agree with Senator Biden that the government should start paying down the deficit first by increasing the tax burden on people with five houses, a yacht, and $5,000 handbags, and not a retired school teacher, or a single mother working two jobs, or a young couple saving to buy their first home.

I also, like Biden, prefer taxing windfall-like inheritances to taking money from people who must clip coupons to feed their families. The person receiving a $2, 000,000 plus inheritance didn’t work for it. And that person probably has already benefited from their family’s wealth educationally, medically, nutritionally, and culturally. This person can afford to put a portion of their inheritance back into the system to benefit society.

...And, yes, I do understand the concept of building up wealth for capital investment. But when you have more money than god, you can afford to invest in business, and pay a few extra taxes. And, if you’re an entrepreneur or a productive citizen of some sort, and not a playboy, a few extra taxes won’t stop you from investing in businesses, growing the economy, and building more wealth....And I’ll add that, although I don’t have any children, and I’m certainly not wealthy, I’ve voted more than once to raise my local taxes for schools, etc. I’m sick of the wealthy crying that it’s not fair to tax them. Life’s not fair, and being taxed more heavily because you are a person with many millions of dollars and not one of the people treading water is, what one man I know coined, a happy problem.

But should Joe Biden be President?

Last night Senator Biden appeared to me to be in his element. When the candidates were asked about their experience, Senator Biden had it. When asked about protecting us from a nuclear Iran, Biden was the one that pointed out how a destabilized nuclear Pakistan is the greater threat, and forced the other candidates to agree with him. In fact, on more than one occasion other candidates answered questions by saying they agreed with something Senator Biden had just said.

Biden seems to understand the complexity of the issues facing us in the Middle East, and elsewhere, better than the other candidates, and the danger of acting in place without exploring possible consequences in other regions. He understands Washington (although he has never lived there) and how to make it work. He has crossed the partisan aisle many times, when necessary to pass needed legislation. He speaks his mind; I believe you can usually tell where he stands on an issue. He seems honest. He works hard—even while campaigning, Senator Biden has managed to attend important votes and draft important legislation. All of these things are qualities we need desperately in the White House. Also, I believe he would be electible in the general election.

Therefore, if given the chance, I’ll vote for Biden for President.
...And, last night, I really did like his shot at Giuliani.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HcXkLbRIWw


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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:50 AM
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1. Couldn't have said it better myself...
Biden is the candidate that will get this country out of the mess * and company have created.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:06 AM
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2. What a wonderful and thoughtful post. As far as the debate, he
got all of that in just six minutes.... Disgraceful the limited amount of time he received. I wish some other network would take over these debates. Thank you again for such an insightful analysis. Beautiful.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:26 AM
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3. The person recieving a 2 million inheritance didn't work for it? This property is worth X million
My family business is now THREE generations. A very rare thing. And because of where we are situated the land value has grown to a huge degree.

I have worked here my whole freaking life. Especially hard in the summer. Essentially sacrificing a private life to a very large degree.

Why the hell should I have to sell this place when my father dies?

Why should we have to go to an estate lawyer and go through hoops legally to keep this place in the family?

Or leave this place to a trust?

Anyway, I also am now a strong supporter of Biden and came to that support by process of elimination. And liking what he's shown during debates.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:26 AM
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4. Excellent post
This woman has really thought this out. Her reasons are very persuasive.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:43 AM
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5. I have also been eyeing him closely. I love his candor, even though he steps in it,
from time to time. I'd rather they speak their mind and stick to it, than say what they think I want to hear.

Joe has been through some tough times and they'll probably drag those out, but I think Joe can handle himself. I doubt the Bush Machine will jump on him too recklessly, because Joe has probably stored away a little "pile" on many of them which he can use for ammunition at payback time. I'm stocking up on popcorn for that day.

Go, Joe!
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:52 PM
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6. Thanks for sharing this article with us.
I'm so frustrated with what our election process has become in the last few decades that it's difficult for me to approach the issues and examine the candidates' histories and personalities with a truly open mind anymore. I have for the umpteenth time concluded that the whole system is rife with corruption and revolves around financial matters far too much to allow for truly good government these days. I don't like the game -- the Big Money Game -- that American politics has become because I believe this does great harm to all those who work hard but don't get to share in the financial rewards their work and other contributions to our culture should bring them.

That said, however, I really appreciate this thoughtful and informative OP. It prompted me to think over the points that were made, and that's a good thing.

What I remember best about Joe Biden is the hearings he held as chairman of some committee (Armed Forces? Not sure which one it was) preceding the launch of the war in Iraq. The subject was whether the U.S. should in fact go to war in Iraq and the purpose of those hearings was to ask the many questions that needed asking of the Bushbots who were advocating it so strongly.

I recall thinking as those hearings went on for several days that Biden was making sure the hard questions were asked, and no vague or glib responses would suffice. Whenever other members of the committee tossed softball queries at those appearing before them, Biden would follow up by pressing the issue until he got more substantial replies -- and often caught the bastards just making up stuff or spouting opinions with no basis in fact at all.

For the first couple of days, I really thought he was exposing the lies and BS, the naive guesses and ridiculous blue sky projections of the Bushbots so clearly that there was no way this war would happen! I still tend to believe that if a healthy proportion of Americans had watched those hearings, it wouldn't have.

Of course, that's a big "if"!

Biden wasn't excitable and he didn't seem biased, nor did he get nasty with Bush's people on the hot seat. He did, however, seem to recognize fully the gravity and the enormity of what the administration was wanting to do, and he pushed hard for complete and honest answers backed with data, not just opinions or playing on fears.

I was disappointed that in the last day or two he seemed to be leaning a bit toward accepting as at least marginally credible some of the reasons for war being offered by the White House's people; but even then Biden didn't appear to be fully sold on their plans or purposes.

Throughout the hearings he seemed to be extremely well informed on military capabilities and strategies and global considerations. He also showed a keen awareness of the political aspects of efforts to sell the war. I thought it was pretty clear at the end that he remained skeptical and would not settle for the snow job.

I could only conclude later that it must have taken something very persuasive to get him to agree to the IWR.

I was impressed, nonetheless, with the way he ran those hearings. He showed a good deal of intelligence and savvy and a natural skill in handling both his fellow committee members and those appearing before them. And in general Biden seems "comfortable in his skin," confident and at ease with others but not arrogant and not the bullying type.

I gained a lot of respect for him during those days. Surely we cannot expect any candidate to be free from all flaws or shortcomings. But all in all, Biden is a far better person for president in my view than the current "frontrunners"!



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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 05:30 PM
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13. Wish I had watched more of those hearings
Being a Biden supporter these days it is frustrating that I overlooked his role in the hearings. At the time I was so sure that Hillary would be the one to make a case Against the war. After all, she had been married to Bill and should have some important knowledge on the issue. Slam, she voted for it. Was hoping that she knew more than many of us against the IWR.

Back then, Biden was the butt of jokes about talking too much, hair plugs, plagiarism, etc.. Once I started paying attention when he spoke he came off as someone that had something to say. To this day I don't know if he has hair plugs!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:24 PM
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14. I'm really sorry I haven't witnessed Joe in action before, either. I didn't start
paying attention until the Dem debates began this year.

And I keep looking at him and can't really see the hair plugs. I think someone posted that he'd had them re-done - if that's accurate, I think they did a fine job!

I discounted him, too, because of all the crap that I'd hear in relation to him. Now, after getting to "know" him, I swear my heart wells with pride and admiration whenever I hear him speak.

I'm GUSHING! How embarrassing!

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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:57 AM
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19. Well I really do not care if he has hair plugs but....
After the debate in Phillie, he came down to the watch party at Smokey Joe's and I can say this, I do not know if they are hair plugs, but his hair is verrrrry nice, even if he does have a high forehead.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:58 PM
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7. KICK!!!!!!
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 02:20 PM
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8. K&REC
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:35 PM
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9. Kicking
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:46 PM
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10. k & r
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mrigirl Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:48 PM
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11. wow! you nailed that Kad!
Great post- These reasons listed here in your post is exactly why I support Biden. Couldn't have said it any better! Biden '08!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:55 PM
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12. Yay - you posted it!!
:toast:
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:38 PM
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15. kick & rec
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:56 PM
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16. Thank you Kad, and thank you Kat.
Very nicely written opinion piece. Everyone should read this.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:45 AM
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17. K&R !
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:55 AM
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18. kick
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:06 PM
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20. K%R
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