Russett and the debate

[emilyg]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/russert-leads-boys-in-hil_b_70644.html

[AX10]

1. Why was Russert allowed to moderate this debate?

:puke:

[liberalmuse]

2. Fuck Russert

He was a disgrace last night. He's a tool that people like Bush can use at will. I can't stand him. We have great candidates, but the moderators are so sub-par it's laughable. We've had almost 20 years of Clinton-haters infiltrating our media, and I've had enough. Fuck Russert. Fuck Matthews. Fuck Sullivan. Fuck everyone on Fox News. And Fuck Americans, for putting up with this right wing, facist, dumbing-down of America bullshit for so goddamned long.

[AX10]

6. The pundit class, Russert, Matthews, Sullivan, etc...

are a huge part of the problem. They are all pro-establishment mules. They are paid millions to keep the masses distracted.

[BootinUp]

3. The National Archives question is examined, Russert was full of shit.

according to this writer:

After spending time on the phone today with a source very familiar with archive procedures, the truth of the matter is quite different. The letter Russert held up was from 1994. It's also standard operating procedures for all presidents. Once documents start being produced by a president, something has to be decided about what to do with them in case something happens to the president. I was told it was standard for presidents to choose the 12 year maximum to hold the documents, which are put in categories like national security, senior administration, secret, etc. The highest level documents often stay secret, and with regards to Bill Clinton specifically, are then run by Bruce Lindsay to decide whether to make them public. What Russert didn't bother to add at the time of his document waving drama, was that right after Bill Clinton left the presidency he asked that his documents be released immediately. But after George W. Bush came into office, he decided that presidential papers would be kept secret indefinitely, something Bill Clinton openly fought against, including opposing Bush on the 12 year secrecy procedure, but especially on the new indefinite stand. So back and forth the conversation went, with Bush pushing back on Bill Clinton.

Russert played a card that was not only disingenuous and meant to bring in Bill Clinton into a debate where Hillary Clinton is running for president, but did so using innuendos and outright falsehoods, according to any objective player. Jim Warren of the Chicago Tribune pointed out on MSNBC today (video up soon) that there was nothing whatsoever unusual about the Clinton archives issue. Warren then went on to say that when you speak of Rudy Giuliani, the same cannot be said. Warren's paper will have a big piece on the issue this Sunday. Wonder if Russert will be interested? Doubtful. By holding the 1994 document up, Russert acted like this was really a new event. It was a charade of monumental proportions.

[ruggerson]

4. Fascinating

What Russert didn't bother to add at the time of his document waving drama, was that right after Bill Clinton left the presidency he asked that his documents be released immediately. But after George W. Bush came into office, he decided that presidential papers would be kept secret indefinitely, something Bill Clinton openly fought against, including opposing Bush on the 12 year secrecy procedure, but especially on the new indefinite stand. So back and forth the conversation went, with Bush pushing back on Bill Clinton.

Russert played a card that was not only disingenuous and meant to bring in Bill Clinton into a debate where Hillary Clinton is running for president, but did so using innuendos and outright falsehoods, according to any objective player. Jim Warren of the Chicago Tribune pointed out on MSNBC today (video up soon) that there was nothing whatsoever unusual about the Clinton archives issue. Warren then went on to say that when you speak of Rudy Giuliani, the same cannot be said. Warren's paper will have a big piece on the issue this Sunday. Wonder if Russert will be interested? Doubtful. By holding the 1994 document up, Russert acted like this was really a new event. It was a charade of monumental proportions.

[napi21]

8. Thank you for posting this. I posted the same info earlier today, and got ONE response of thanks.

I don't understand the entire media overlooking this! I remember the argument! Why don't they? Damn it! It's not my job to do this, but it sure is THEIRS!

I posted a link that even said Shrub's Presidential Directive # 13233 further restricted the National Archivists in their efforts to release documents.

[emilyg]

11. Sorry. Did not see your post.

[napi21]

12. Oh no! No appology needed. This was this afternoon, and I only had one response.

I just asked the qauestion about my memory. I was sure I remembered Shrub's directive pissing Clinton off. I'm just glad this is being picked up bo others! The media sure seems to be forgetting all of it!

[AX10]

9. I expect a full frontal assault on Jim Warren for his article.

It's all the right wing has left.

[DFW]

5. Does this sound familiat or what?

"I have here in my hand a list of 256 Communists.....!"

[CyberPieHole]

7. Russett proved himself to be an even bigger asshole...

than even I could have thought possible. :puke:

[BenDavid]

10. All Russert is concerned about is "Clinton's cock, clinton's

cock".......You will not see any msm bring this matter up but as I posted last evening this was a setup by Russert and Williams, and I knew on the 5 30 pm nbc news with the leadin to the story about the debate this was going to be a setup and from all accounts and from the story provided by the link it was exactly that.....I did not see the debate as comcast in their divine wisdom brought Fox News here 10 years ago and forgot to bring msnbc.....

[Lucinda]

13. Thanks Emily!

[Karmadillo]

14. Thank you very much for posting this. Russert is always capable of

taking journalism to new lows.

[avrdream]

15. What a dickhead!

Check this info out:

"There were 52 questions asked last night; 25 had to do with either Hillary or Bill Clinton, including very personal insinuations, with 22 of the 25 being abjectly hostile.

Tim Russert asked 26 questions; 14 were to Clinton, with 5 directly targeting her personally."

Just makes me love her more for how she responded to the Boys Club.

[Elidor]

16. "Integrity is for paupers!"

-Tim Russert

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Tim Russert Is A Hero To Some Here

Some DUers would embrace Dick Cheney if he dissed Hillary Clinton...


Yeah, I said it...