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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:34 AM
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Re: Drivers Licenses For Undocumented Workers
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 07:47 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
I support drivers' licenses for undocumented workers but I am not willing to give the Rethuglicans a wedge issue to defend it... I will go to the ramparts to defend the rights of gays, choice, the rights of undocumented workers who have been here for years not to be summarily shipped out,protecting Social Security from privatization, etcetera but I am not willing to hand the Rethugs a gift wrapped wedge issue if that's what driver's licenses for undocumented workers is...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:43 AM
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1. I think they should be licensed too
maybe then they would actually drive the speed limit. I can always tell the illegals on the roads; because they don't want to be pulled over, they tend to drive under the speed limit and driving dangerously slow can be just as bad as driving dangerously fast.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:46 AM
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2. It Seems Like A Ready Made Issue For The Rethugs For The Nativist Rethugs To Exploit
I have certain principles I'll go to the ramparts for...This wasn't one of them... The ironic thing is not having a license never prevented any adult from driving who wanted to...That's why driving with suspended driver's licenses are so common...

But it is what it is...
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:13 AM
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8. Give Lawbreakers a License?
Let see, these folks broke the law in crossing our border illegally, many of them are using fake Social Security numbers to work here (another illegal act) ... so we should let them have a legal document, a driver's license, and maybe they'll drive the speed limit?

Get real. Taking jobs from Americans by allowing themselves to be exploited is not good for citizen laborers in this nation, it is not good for the illegal exploited worker, and, in particular, it is not good for Mexico because it lets the current corrupt government stay in power.

This will only be a wedge issue if progressives and Democrats are so out of touch with middle America that they don't see what illegal aliens are doing to our standard of living. You may not like it, but Lou Dobbs, Thom Hartmann and others who are talking about the 'war on the middle class' are tapping into a very real issue for millions and millions of American voters.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:20 AM
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9. There Are Approximately 12,000,000 Undocumented Workers In The United States
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 08:20 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
What do you plan to do about them?

There is no way they can be "rounded up" and sent home without putting together a security apparatus which would have made Hitler and Stalin blush...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 12:21 PM
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13. I didn't say I like that they aree here and they're not only hurting us but themselves
and they're going to drive on our roads licensed or not. At least allowing them to have licenses will enable theme to buy insurance, so there is some recourse when they cause accidents.
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:47 AM
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3. You don't have to give the Repubs a wedge issue.Hillary did that last night.
Merry Christmas!!!!:rofl: :rofl: :woohoo:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:51 AM
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4. Yeah-Bashing Brown Folks Is So Progressive
It's almost as fun as bashing gays...


:sarcasm:


Hey- Barack Obama supported drivers licenses for undocumented workers so at least we know he could find some empathy for brown folks...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:57 AM
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6. Some would rather have Dangerous drivers on the road.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 07:56 AM
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5. I think they should be licensed also. Lou Dobbs has been on the warpath last few days

on this issue. It is a no winner for Dems at this point
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:10 AM
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7. But, chimpy waves through Mexican truckers.
How can it even be an issue when non-US citizens are driving hundreds, maybe thousands of trucks on our roads.

Unlicensed drivers are more dangerous than li scened drivers, and Mexican Truckers are more dangerous than American Truckers.

I don't see why this should be a wedge issue. It should be framed as public safety and paired with the outsourcing of our trucking jobs to Mexican companies.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:22 AM
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10. Its 2 wedges for the price of one!
A wedge between Democrats and one for the Republicans too.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 08:26 AM
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11. Do You Think If These Undocumented Workers Were From England And Canada There Would Be Such A Fuss ?
Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 08:32 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
DSB
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