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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:06 PM Original message |
Poll question: Did Kerry run a good campaign in 2004? |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. he ran a terrible campaign. n/t |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Agree. It started with the convention |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes! Despite Terrible McAwful |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. Other, because... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Kerry let them get the swiftboat thing in front of him while he was |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. That is unfair - he gave the media all the proof they needed |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Isn't that like asking, 'What was your favorite food 2 years ago"? |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. My favorite food two years ago was Boston Clam Chowder. |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Oh Oh...mmmmmmmm Some finger liken' good southern fried chicken with |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. 2 years ago? Boston Baked Beans |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Kerry ran a horrible campaign. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. No he didn't |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. His campaign was fair IMO |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Fair? Yes. Effective? No. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. What I like about Hillary Clinton is.. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. She hasn't been hit by anything of the magnitude of the SBVT |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Oh, I'm sure they will mount something like it |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Actually, the only part of highlighting his military service I had a problem with in 2004 was |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. I have to disagree |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. One more thing |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. Another Clinton blamer is what I get from reading your post |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Kerry mentioned the POW/MIA thing in his speech |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. Lirwin2, stop obsessing about Kerry - He is not running. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Oh look, I'm in Mass's dream! |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I dream about some fine North Carolina Crab Legs from Big Daddy's Sea Shack. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. Remember Kerry's gem of "I voted for it before I voted against it"? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Perhaps the most inept statement ever made, for what was a complete non-issue. nt |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Most embarrassing campaign ever. They couldn't even release friggin balloons from the rafters |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. LOL I had forgotten about that one. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Did you know Kerry got more votes in Massachusetts |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Probably because there were way fewer voters in MA in 1960 as in 2004 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. LOL! |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Oh |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. He got a higher PERCENT of the vote as well |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. I doubt the Presidential candidate had anything to do with the balloon drop |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Note the use of the word "campaign" in my OP |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. More embarrassing than Dukakis or Mondale? Please. You revise history |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Boneheaded? The only thing boneheaded was Kerry's campaign & all his goofy gaffes |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. List them! |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. Did Bill Clinton run good campaigns in 1992 & 1996? |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. I've been watching since 1968...Kerry ran the worst campaign since Michael Dukakis |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. Kerry-Edwards received more support than any other Democratic ticket in |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
28. Three things stand out on what a sham this was: |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. On number 2 , you distorted Kerry's response |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. He did NOT have the stars in his favor. Hillary knew this in 2004, which |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
32. I cringed when Kerry made the "reporting for duty" comment |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, I cringed when Clinton stopped his campaign to sign on the execution of a mentally ill person. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Ugh! n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. That really bothered me as well |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:30 AM Original message |
Look, I like Kerry. I admire him. I think he would have been a fine |
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Mellowtone (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
49. I agree 100% |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
50. So a single line to open his speech constitutes an awful campaign? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. No. It represents a lot that was wrong with the campaign. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. "They didn't attack skillfully" - BINGO |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Funny, some people criticize him for not playing up his military experience. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I'm done. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You call that "tone deaf"? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Yes. I thought it was awful. And I like JK |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I did not like the line, but a line does not make an awful campaign. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The line simply represents what I saw as a tone deaf campaign. n/t |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
36. It could have been a good campaign if the handlers hadn't kept him |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Thats a very, very valid point |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
37. Kerry allowed himself to be swiftboated. He didn't |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. He would have been |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
42. One of the worst I've ever seen. Just awful. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. Made his first mistake picking milquetoast for a running mate |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
45. Choosing Edwards was tantamount to surrender, but Kerry was great in the debates |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Thing is |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
46. Choosing Edwards and not getting McAuliffe out of the DNC were errors, no doubt about that. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. Absolutely not. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. That's not what you said in your original thread. You said "worst campaign ever", as |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Look, |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Great candidate, horrible, horrible campaign |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Really? I said "worst campaign ever"? Is that a quote? |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
68. No campaign is perfect, but I think his has mostly been tarnished in hindsight |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. SHeeeeeitt! |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
71. John Kerry ran a valiant campaign |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
74. Senator Kerry ran a good, honest and above the belt campaign. |
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