I like Kucinich... I just don't think that America is ready for him

[Clintonista2]

Give him another 15 years, wait for the views of Americans to catch up with him.

[Not Me]

1. I intend to vote for him in the primary anyway.

The least it will do is register my support for his political agenda.

[cali]

2. that's what I'm doing.

I live in late state. My primary doesn't mean much. But I actually, see nothing in Dennis that makes me think he'd be an effective president. It's his platform I'm voting for, not his record, or him.

[bigwillq]

3. Me too

He is truly the only one running that shares a majority of my views on most of the major issues. I can't wait to vote for him.

[flvegan]

11. Ditto.

[DemBones DemBones]

4. In 15 years, he'll be 77, though he'll still have that boyish look, I think.

The way things are going, the planet may not exist in 15 years. We need Dennis NOW.

[dweller]

5. i'm not waiting for amurka to wake up

he's got my vote again this time.

dp

[billyoc]

6. He'd rather be right than be President.

I can dig it, I'd rather be right than be President as well.

And he and I will both be getting equally close to the Oval Office, that is to say as
close as the group tour takes you. :hi:

[FREEWILL56]

7. You don't think America is ready for him maybe

because you want hillary to be president and are trying to sway people from voting for somebody else. DK is needed now. Hillary isn't needed as she is a mild republicon clone in how she votes and spins.
Looks like your tactics aren't working on an informed democratic public anymore and for that I recommend.

[Clintonista2]

8. Um. Alrighty then.

:hi:

[iaviate1]

9. Just because people think America isn't ready for something...

doesn't justify not doing what's right. There are many examples throughout history that teach us this.

[Clintonista2]

12. I'm not saying what he's doing isn't right

I'm saying that's why he won't be the nominee, and if he was the nominee, that's why he wouldn't win a GE.

[FREEWILL56]

14. And you are trying to insure that he doesn't

become the nominee with your efforts of getting fewer people to vote for him. That crap about him not being electable no doubt originated from the hillary camp to take away real competition giving hillary a better shot.

[Clintonista2]

15. Um, I don't need to "try" to do anything

You don't have a very high opinion of people on DU if you think a post like this will stop them from voting for who they want.

[FREEWILL56]

16. But you try anyway.

That's why it's you with the low opinion of DUers.
:hi:

[Clintonista2]

17. Like I said, I think DUers can think for themselves

You don't need to defend them against lil ol' "brainwashing" Lirwin2. Thanks though! :hi:

[iaviate1]

39. We're all manipulated in some way...

And all have different ideas about what's best for the progressive cause... when enough people think he is unelectable and say it, it has power. That's why people freak out when a bunch of us say Hillary won't ever get our votes.

[Stevepol]

10. K&R!

[Iggo]

13. So what if America's "not ready"?

America's not ready for reason? Tough shit.

What, but we're ready for another 15 years worth of Neocon insanity dressed up as foreign policy?

We can't survive another 15 years of that.

So, ready or not, I'm voting for Kucinich.

If he loses the primary, I've lost nothing. If he wins. We all win.

[Clintonista2]

18. I geuss I'm saying, Kucinich may not be popular right now, but he will be

Once Americans catch up.

[FREEWILL56]

19. If that's why you posted this then try taking away your

hillary pic and try saying good things about DK so that you can "get Americans to catch up". Saying he isn't popular right now is wrong and is a tactic of somebody wanting hillary in there. So if you were saying that you can't change people's minds then what are you doing as you said Americans need to catch up? I like this spin and squirm you do.

[FREEWILL56]

20. To further prove your statement of DK being unpopular as false

we can see in the link I'll provide the pulse of DUers on the candidates. Gee, it seems that hillary is far behind DK and even others that aren't in the race.
http://www.actblue.com/page/du-presidential
BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:spank:

[cali]

21. I don't think Kucinich

has it in him to be an effective candidate anytime. I don't know why that is, but I think it's so. And it's frustrating because I'd like to see his ideas bet more attention.

[FREEWILL56]

23. Why do you think that?

If I had to go on a feeling I would vote for him or even a few other fine candidates, but not hillary. The track records are there to see for all to look over and I see DK against this Iraq war and always was and he's even willing to be in the front of an antiwar march so he's got guts. He's got compassion as he stayed at the side of a fellow protester that fell victim to the high temperatures until help arrived. How many of the other candidates would've done this much? He hasn't been bought off by the insurance industry and has good health insurance proposals. He even has an interest and plans for our energy woes and global warming. I am at a loss why you feel he wouldn't be effective as he is one of the few that is.
DK IS MY PICK.

[cali]

29. He hasn't been an effective candidate

because he's virtually ignored Iowa. No campaign workers, no offices, virtually nothing. He cancelled being part of a debate at the last moment last week in Iowa.

That doesn'tlook to me like he's really serious about running

[FREEWILL56]

40. He hasn't ignored Iowa.

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/newsroom/iowa-democratic-leaders-trying-to-%22rig-the-game%22/
He does have campaign offices there too so that doesn't hold any water either.

[Larry Ogg]

22. I like Kucinich too and I also believe his views are aligned, more than any other candidate,

with the majority of Americans. I also believe that most Americans are unaware of how the corporately owned conservative biased news media is manipulating the electoral process too the hilt. Goal being steal the elections before the poles are open and put a corporately owned puppet head in the White House, one that will take orders, not rock the boat, preserve the status quo’s war against the middle class and third world countries, and lie too the masses as to why things are the way they are and not getting any better.

[2rth2pwr]

24. That's just really unfair.

A lot of people smell roses when they see ufo's.

[Clark2008]

25. Hmmm... I like Hillary... I just don't think that American is ready

for a female president. Give her another 15 years, wait for the views of Americans to catch up with that idea.


See... works a lot of ways, doesn't it?

:hi:

[BootinUp]

27. but its kind of empty logic

Seeing as Hillary is arguably the strongest candidate we have had in a decade.

[BootinUp]

26. A very practical approach

in the meantime, we should look for constructive ways of changing Americas mind like getting accurate information to them. It would be better than just bashing Dems all the time.

[FREEWILL56]

32. It seems to me it was the whole purpose of this thread was to bash DK.

It also seems no coincidence that it is coming from hillary supporters. I had also shown that hillary is not one of the strongest candidates in 10 years let alone now. I am informing Americans by exposing this massif bombardment of disinformation and bunk from the hillary camp. The dem bashing has been coming from you hillary supporters and it is obvious in this thread.

[BootinUp]

33. I don't think so

but I have not been able to read the whole thread.

[FREEWILL56]

34. Here you go as this was only to do what praise DK?

"I like Kucinich... I just don't think that America is ready for him
Give him another 15 years, wait for the views of Americans to catch up with him."
There wasn't any basis for it just don't go with DK right? The thread certainly isn't that long either so tell me again who bashes who? In fact the bull from many hillary supporters is getting very deep in here. The more that people know about the hillary campaign being shoved down people's throats here on the DU the better and there's so much dissinformation and underhanded tactics being done in her name that it's sickening. I had to defend DK from the onslaught of you people's dirty deeds and downright slanders, harrasments, and even threats. Nice people DU has here and hillary's supporters need to be jailed and her too if she's involved with it.

[BootinUp]

35. I guess the basis

would be polling on some of his issues and his own numbers for President.

I can't remember the last time I attacked Dennis, on the other hand I have defended him on several occasions, even when it wasn't the popular way to go.

You know Hillary is not the most popular candidate on DU, whining about unfair treatment doesn't get me too choked up to be honest about it, not after what I see posted every 5 minutes.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Could DK Win If He Had A Different Persona?

Could an unabashed liberal like Ted Kennedy have won a general election if he didn't have the personal baggage?

I disappointedly conclude, even without the personal baggage, he just couldn't...

McGovern ran as an unabashed liberal and the results weren't pretty...

[rjones2818]

36. Gore ran a centerist campaign, Kerry the same...

and both time we ended up with W.(by hook or by crook). In both cases the elections were much closer than they should have been. Both were 'electable.'

Screw electability!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

[Name removed]

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[SaveElmer]

31. Perhaps they are ready for him on Krypton...nt

[martymar64]

38. Typical

:eyes:

[harun]

37. Look at Lula da Silva in Brazil. The media villified him like

crazy but his moral standing, hard work and commitment paid off. Kucinich's will to.

People want someone with principles who will stand by them even in tough times. That is leadership, Kucinich did that.

[eridani]

41. Working for his campaign is a way to bring that day closer n/t