Okay, I'm officially embarrassed by the democratic leadership....

[WCGreen]

Getting into a I'm more American than you pissing contest with the laughing their heads off dick heads on the other side of the aisle...

And now they are going to go against a middle class tax cut because, as Lott said so eloquently, there aren't a lot people effected by this law in my state...

I stayed away from politics for a few days because I was getting sick to my stomach, like a family member watching an alcoholic careen out of control...

Seriously...

The only thing I can think of is an intervention, send them video clips of democrats taking stands against the Right wing...

I just can't believe these people let them get sucked into such high school drama with the bully's on the playground...

I don't know...

I'm glad I'm getting a little on in years...

But then again, I remember leadership as it should be...

Maybe we boomer's are just too Milquetoast to stand up to a bully, we want to understand them, feel their pain...

And the people running for president...

If this truly is the best we have to offer the country, on both side, is it any reason people are fed up with politics...

None of our candidates are taking stands against the republicans except a few swipes by Edwards and Gravel and DK...

The rest, platitudes and meaningless feel good sound bites...

It's like a bad performance art piece...

I'm waiting for Laurie Anderson to pull back the curtain...

When we need FDR, Millard Filmore shows up...

[DaveJ]

1. Line 10

"Maybe we boomer's are just too Milquetoast to stand up to a bully, we want to understand them, feel their pain..."

Totally agree.

Bullies are revered in today's culture. Why did boomers decide to let that happen?

[WCGreen]

4. I don't know...

Maybe they have been slapped around so long that they can't remember what it was like to have a spine...

[DaveJ]

6. I guess I can understand

I see why hippies hated adults. Looking back, they seemed like a bunch of creeps.

But from here on out, I hope we can put an end to it. In fact, I'm sure we will.

[slipslidingaway]

2. It's everywhere...

"I just can't believe these people let them get sucked into such high school drama with the bully's on the playground..."

:(

[msongs]

3. leadership = pleasing the bully bush nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. Welcome to the club!

I have no idea what happened to our courageous leaders...

It's completely disgusting...

We are so past time to understand these folks...

I just want to have them get up and get some serious work done...

But now I think they won't...

And I have no idea why...

I am beyond pissed!

Well said, as usual!

K&R

[DaveJ]

7. Corageous Leaders

I'm just slightly younger than what is considered the boomer generation, but I have a few decades of good working years left in me.

Even though boomers are beginning to retire, I do not think they are out of the game. I think they can still influence what goes on. So here's the deal. If they can truly determine what we are worth I think all will be well. Do not use subjective rating systems, like who has the loudest megaphone, who has the coolest hair, who has the best taste in music, but someone who sincerely knows the difference between right and wrong. If boomers can support simple ideals such as that, I think all will be well.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

8. I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating...

How can we expect independent voters to be confident that Democrats can protect the country from terrorists when we can't even stand up to John Boehner? When our leadership caves every fucking time, we're telling those voters looking for leadership that they might as well look somewhere else.

[frylock]

13. you can't, and you shouldn't..

I think a lot of indys, myself included, have grown tired of this shit. I've voted a straight dem ticket the last three election cycles. I don't think I can bring myself to do that any longer.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

28. From your keyboard to the DNC's ear...

We're going to lose the next election if we continute to be "Republican Lite"

[madfloridian]

31. May I remind you it is not the DNC being Republican Lite.

When you say things like that, people don't understand that the congressional parts of the party are the DSCC and DCCC and they don't need our support because they have the lobbyists and corporations now.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

34. Understood...

I was referring to my hopes that Howard Dean would do a little behind-the-scenes ass-kicking.

[gulfcoastliberal]

24. Exactly. Worthless, bought & paid for fascists. nt

[Larynx Oblation]

9. Hippie Beads & Beatle Boots

I wrote a song some time ago and one of the lines stated, Some who wore hippie beads and Beatle boots, traded love & peace for 3-piece suits."
Ideals have been sucked into the parasitical usury system and vomited onto this plutocracy.
I really feel that the only way things will change, is for all of us to perform the tried, proved method, REVOLUTION!!!

Unfortunately I don't see that happening. Because if this was another country anywhere else on this planet, after all we have endured. Others would have conducted a million baseball bat march onto D.C. along tim ago. What is our excuse?

[Perry Logan]

10. President Bush's success rating in the House has fallen this year to a half-century low

"President Bush's success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.

"So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html

Don't let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well--especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.

[WCGreen]

14. But if what he opposed and won are the high ticket items...

Who really gives a shit about the mundane crap...

[jimshoes]

11. I find myself feeling much the same way

WC. We must still be keeping that powder dry for some reason, but I'll be damned if I know what the reason is.

[BootinUp]

12. Okay, I'm officially embarrased by all the keypad warriors

who only know how to put angry fingers on keypads to construct angry letters about people who are actually in Government and had the balls to run and win and put up with angry keypadders, Rethuglican tactics, and a pretty thankless job that is far more complicated than most keypad warriors care to think about.

[WCGreen]

16. Screw that crap...

I ran for office three times, served on the Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) Board of Election was the treasurer of the democratic party for eight years and am currently managing two campaigns...

So yea, this key board warrior has won the right to critize the spinelss ass wipes in congress...

[BootinUp]

18. You are mighty brave behind an anonymous

net name. I'm very impressed.

[WCGreen]

21. Dude, my name is WC Green....

[madfloridian]

49. Heh heh

:rofl:

[Egnever]

25. Says the guy with the ananomys screen name.

Irony at its finest and then smacked down on top of it.

[BootinUp]

27. It really

doesn't change the ridiculousness of the thread and the whole scene at this increasingly ridiculous site. Enjoy.

[dionysus]

42. as you bluster with your own "ahm an internets tuff guy" post

fucking hypocrit

[Forkboy]

50. Hey, nice apology for being wrong.

:eyes:

[madfloridian]

29. I am embarrassed for the ones who come to reprimand people

and call them keyboard warriors as though they were stupid.

The tactic of putting down the base has worked for a while, and it still intimidates some people.

But not very many anymore.

[BootinUp]

32. If the only purpose of the base

is to attack and humiliate our elected reps, then the base needs to grow up. And DU has few voices saying what I am, so I think its asinine to suggest that some overbearing monster is treating the base badly.

[madfloridian]

33. Baloney

.

[cuke]

35. Baloney is telling dems they should "stand up and fight"

while attacking them.

[madfloridian]

37. Okay, let them do what they want with impunity.

Let them do just what they are doing right now...giving Bush his appointees and agenda..and just hush?

[cuke]

39. Not "just hush". More like "just think"

If you make someone your enemy, you shouldn't expect them to act like an ally

[madfloridian]

41. Backwards. They treat regular Democrats like me like the enemy.

And you are talking to me like I am the enemy.

I am NOT the enemy.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[madfloridian]

45. I consider that a personal attack on me.

.

[cuke]

46. You should read your #41

[madfloridian]

47. You said I was "You're not a friend or an ally of the dems"

That is a personal attack.

[cuke]

51. No, I said "You should look at your #41"

[madfloridian]

52. It's ok...I just haven't "lowered my expectations" enough.

.

[dionysus]

43. they get attacked because they WON'T stand up and fight.

and when they DO, people like you cower and wring hands and demand they apologize. Look where that crap has gotten us.

[dionysus]

53. you < base

[dsc]

15. The AMT isn't a middle class tax cut

I agree it needs fixed but middle class tax cut, I think not.

[WCGreen]

17. It is now...

The longer it remains unindex to inflation the closer it gets to you and me pal...

[dsc]

19. not even close

Look, I will say that the people aren't in the leisure class but we are talking over 100k still. That is a very nice living.

[WCGreen]

20. I'm a tax preparer and several people who have excessive

deductions on Schedule A will fall into that AMT trap even if they aren't making all that much...

Perhaps a sales rep who as a 100k salary but spends 35k on business expenses...

HE will see the effects of the AMT...

[madfloridian]

30. So, just because you are a tax preparer....you think you know something?

Just kidding. You have been quite insulted in this thread. Get used to it. I have.

I just recommended your post.

[madfloridian]

48. Yes, it is moving into the middle class

in a way that is out of proportion to the intent.

[AtomicKitten]

22. I just watch a recording of Tavis Smiley interviewing Nancy Pelosi.

[liberaltrucker]

23. Chris, the replies upthread say it all

I'm so *pick your adjective* (alienated, marginalized, poo-pooed, what the fuck ever).

At least we have the satisfaction of, well, dying and leaving this bullshit to those
younger and, hopefully, stronger. It'll be a tough row to hoe for them.

[WCGreen]

26. REally... BEing an Old Coot does have some advantages...

[opihimoimoi]

36. Just wait till Hilliary gets in their face....she has 14 years of pent up frustration

to let loose....

She will kill them Pubs with good programs, free health care, no mo war shit, and balanced budgets to pare down the Nat Debt.

She will be regarded as one of the best......Prolly win the Nobel in the process.....

[Enrique]

38. what's the tax cut story?

[WCGreen]

40. caving on the AMT....