How Hillary Revived the GOP

[babylonsister]

OK, so what's wrong with this site?

How Hillary Revived the GOP
By Richard Baehr


A few months back, Republicans were troubled by the prospect of House and Senate retirements, the huge fundraising advantage for Democrats in the Presidential race and Congressional races, and the continued political overhang of the Iraq war and the President's low popularity. It is of course still possible, if not likely, that Democrats will significantly increase their Senate majority, hold the House, and win the Presidency. But the dynamic of the political races have taken a recent turn favorable to the GOP. And for that, the Republicans can thank Hillary Clinton.

The Hillary juggernaut is a boring story

Pretty much everybody, except Barack Obama and John Edwards, now thinks Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. She has opened a lead of 20-30 points in most national opinion surveys. She leads in the polling in every early primary state, and pretty much everywhere else as well. If she wins in Iowa, she is the certain nominee of her party. Even if she loses Iowa, it is hard to see how this would prove fatal to her campaign.

The Clintons are a political machine, and this presidential race has been 40 years in the making. The campaign has been meticulous, and cautious, and boring, but has enormous fundraising power, a national campaign infrastructure built on two prior presidential runs, plus the Clintons' star power. Finally there are powerful media sycophants who have been part of the Clinton team since 1991, as the two Clintons have traded access for reliably favorable coverage.

more...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/how_hillary_revived_the_gop.html

[jenmito]

1. Nothing. It tells the truth...

but I'm sure her supporters will find some way to discredit it.

[rinsd]

6. Easily discredited because its a rw bs website.

http://www.americanthinker.com/richard_baehr/

[jenmito]

10. That's like saying because WE hate Bush and terrorists hate Bush we're like the terrorists...

RW tactic. We on the left can think Hillary will energize the Repubx. just like RWers can. It doesn't mean we're like them OR that it should be discredited.

[rinsd]

25. And the enemy of your enemy is rarely your friend.

The seeking out rw hatchets to go after Hillary should be discredited.

I mean I am sure you find Rush playing Obama the Magic Negro incredibly offensive as do I even though he took the idea for that from a lw author.

[jenmito]

40. You didn't disprove my point...

She wasn't seeking out a RW hatchet. She genuinely didn't know. And my guess is because the article made sense. What did the article say that was wrong or insulting like Rush's BS? The truth is the truth-Hillary DOES unify the Repubs.

[niceypoo]

53. Yeah, the GOP is flying so high these days....

With their 24% boy king and their gay flings.....they are peaking...

[babylonsister]

I didn't know, and still don't know. I know what I linked to; is this really

a r/w site or is it the writer you don't agree with? That's why I asked.

[rinsd]

17. Check out both this author's stories and the overall slant of the website.

http://www.americanthinker.com/richard_baehr/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/

Mistakes happen. If you say you posted this in good faith, I believe you.

[babylonsister]

21. FWIW, I found it here, where I find some good stuff occasionally:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

There is lots of questionable stuff, too! Pick and choose...

[rinsd]

23. I only use RCP for their polling compilations page.

I stay away from their commentary most of the time.

[fightindonkey]

58. And You Posted Right Wing Propaganda. Admit It, and Get Over It. Hillary Wins, Period.

Too bad you had to find something to smear Hillary, and it had to come from the Right. Bravo.

[babylonsister]

62. You told me! I'm humbled and disgraced!

:boring:

[MonkeyFunk]

according to wikipedia:

"The American Thinker is a daily conservative internet publication with articles on the topics of national security, economics, diplomacy, culture, and military strategy.<1> The articles published are often mentioned on The Rush Limbaugh Show."

[babylonsister]

19. Sheeet! I should have checked there! The first part of that

description I could live with-hea, who doesn't like to read a conservative pov occasionally? But the Limbo part...my apologies. :hide: :blush:

[aquart]

14. Which is another reason why Obama will lose.

His supporters are too ready to snatch anything, even pure poison, if they think it will help.

If Obama were more experienced, he would put a quick end to it...or make sure his supporters didn't brandish his logo when they set out to make fools of themselves.

[niceypoo]

52. It tells the truth? "why does the left hate Israel" is truth? lol

GOP talking points website.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/why_does_the_left_hate_israel_2.html

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

2. I think "Clinton Media Sycophants" pretty much gives away the game here. "American Thinker" is a RW

rag/site. It's the kind of link that comes up at workplace computers where you find rushlimbaugh.com, foxnews etc. in the web history.

[BootinUp]

3. Maybe we should give them someone easier to wax

in the main event?

[MonkeyFunk]

4. slogging around right-wing sites

to find anti-Clinton articles?


How cute.

[babylonsister]

39. B.S. If you're so concerned where I'm slogging, check the thread. nt

[MonkeyFunk]

61. I posted that before you seemed to realize it was a RW site

but I knew it was a right wing site as soon as I clicked on it and read the article titles.

[rinsd]

5. Well you should try reading the other articles on the site, because its obvious rw.

The Nobel Prize Curse - http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/the_nobel_prize_curse.html

The Surge is Only the First Step - http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/the_surge_is_only_the_first_st.html

Or some of the blog posts

The Rush Limbaugh Smear & the Imus factor - http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/the_rush_limbaugh_smear_and_th.html

And for the author specifically here's his list - http://www.americanthinker.com/richard_baehr/

* How Hillary Revived the GOP
* Why I am a Jewish Conservative
* Ann Coulter is Not Helping
* The New American Tyranny: A Prosecutor, the Faculty and Journalists
* The New Years Gift from Hamas
* The Shape of a Hillary-Rudy Race
* Is Barry Bonds Baseball's Greatest Slugger?
* Why Does the Left Hate Israel?
* Seven Months Out: The State of the Races
* No More Land for War in Israel: Part 2
* No More Land for War in Israel
* Krauthammer's Guarded Optimism on Israel
* Soros and Hillary: Partners on Israel?
* Fred Thompson and the GOP's Southern Problem
* Democrat Dreams and GOP Weakness
* The War Against Israel in America: Part Two
* The War in America Against Israel (part one)
* The State of the Race: The Republicans
* The State of the Race: The Democrats
* The Chicago Tribune's Pre-emptive Strike on Rudy Giuliani
* Two Good Guys and the Other G Word
* Why Europe Abandoned Israel
* A Tale of Two Ex-Presidents
* The Exit Polls and the Jewish Vote
* No Dressing up this Pig
* Premature Celebration for the Democrats?
* Will a Democrat Win Change Our Relationship with Israel?
* Five Days to Go
* Barack Obama: The Visible Man
* Election Forecast: Three Weeks Out
* Al Gore's Crusade
* Under the Media Radar: They Also Run
* Will the Democrats Take the House? It Might Happen
* Hezbollah Plays Oprah
* American Political Wars and Israel's War with Hezbollah
* The Hope and the Siege
* Convict, Correct, but Never Apologize
* Giuliani Time?
* Tectonic Plates Moving on Madison Street
* More Land, Less Peace
* The 2006 Prospects for Capitol Hill Control
* The College Rejection Bonanza
* Fear Factor, the Shakedown, and Diversionary Tactics
* Hamas, the Mussolini Test and Iran
* Larry Franklin and the New York Times NSA leaks
* Will Democrats Take the Senate? In a Word, No.
* The Alito Hearings
* The Good German and the Bad Jews
* Suffering and Jihad
* Why Does the Left Hate Israel?
* The myth of the stolen election of 2000
* A Special Hanukkah Party
* Spielberg steps in it
* Megalomania in the Liberal Jewish Establishment
* France shatters the MSM template
* The growing threat to Israel
* South Side Story
* The Siege
* New Orleans myths: The numbers tell a different story
* Wal-Mart and the Death of the American Labor Movement
* More Krugman lies: the Great Unraveling continues
* More baloney from Krugman
* Krugman's Big Lie
* All over except for the shouting
* Storm Clouds for the GOP?
* Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East
* Supreme Hype
* The Democrats sign up with the anti-Semites
* The McCain gambit
* The big set-up
* Slurring Bush at the New York Times
* Subsidizing Palestinians
* The best of times or the worst of times for the GOP?
* DePaul's Jihad against academic freedom
* A media-hyped rift
* Columbia whitewash
* For the Times, it is always racism
* Can TWA 800 shoot down Hillary?
* Hail to the Chief: tribes and tribalism in American sports
* The early morning line on the biggest of the open seats
* Response to "Israel in retreat"
* American demography and support for Israel
* Thank you sir, may I have another?
* Bill Gates, global warming, and Davos
* Democrats adrift
* Shilling for the new Castro
* Blue state madness
* A day in the life of the Times
* Turning a blind eye
* The sound of stealing
* Why Europe Went Wrong on Israel
* The intimidation factor
* Berkeley bunkum
* A state of nature
* An election wrap-up
* Election forecast
* John Zogby, the DNC's polling shill
* A split for Beantown
* The sprint to the finish
* Peddling the myth of the stolen election
* The endgame
* Condo wars: the fight for Florida
* The media megaphone and the polls
* Polls, propaganda and prevarication
* Advantage: Bush
* Kerry's Middle East advisor wants to reward Syria
* Bush-Rather fight would be stopped by a ref
* Rather ineffectual
* Threading a small needle
* Was the election in Venezuela stolen?
* Eight weeks to go
* The Hypocrite's Oath
* The state of the race
* Planting poisonous seeds
* Abortion and political realignment
* Two can play
* The myth of the stolen election
* Which campaign is really in trouble?
* Kerry's Saudi Gambit
* Okrent Spots a Rat
* The State of the Race
* Kerry bounces backwards
* The Presbyterian Church loses its grip
* Da Wildcard Senator
* What Israel Has Lost
* A big whoop?
* Israel, the courts and Michael Moore
* The media and the election
* Rich White Trash
* Can the Democrats win back the Senate?
* The Gipper`s final hurrah
* The Europe that was
* Money talks
* Will al Qaeda re-elect the President?
* The Protocols of the Elders of Zinni
* Has Bush Bottomed?
* The Other Coming Out Party
* Drawing Blood
* The games people play
* A Bad Week for the President is a Mixed Week in the Polls
* The Gaza Retreat
* A Good Day for Bush and the GOP in Pennsylvania
* More NYT front page propaganda
* Wal-Mart and the Death of the Labor Movement
* The October Surprise
* Why is Bush Pulling Ahead?
* Iraq, Israel, and the Electoral College
* The Wisdom of Quiet Diplomacy
* Thank You Martha
* The need to blame
* Jenin and Iraq: The Usual Calumnies
* The Referendum on Iraq
* Why Does the Left Hate Israel?
* Coming Attractions?
* George Soros Speaks

[onenote]

7. written by someone with an agenda

If you accept his view on this subject, would you also accept this opinion?


http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/08/the_hypocrites_oath.html

[babylonsister]

20. OK, my apologies for the error. I will NEVER do it again! But

doesn't every writer usually have an agenda?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. I'll Defend Ya

You seem to post a lot of articles... I can see posting one accidentally from a right wing source...

It's fun to see the esprit de corps of everybody attacking it...

[cali]

8. Sorry to see so much right wing garbage cited approvingly at

DU.

[babylonsister]

15. I didn't know; I liked their shirts! So sue me. nt

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

9. Thanks for posting this crap

[aquart]

11. Now they're positioning Hillary as "boring"?

Why? Because they think it worked with Gore?

[papau]

12. if it can be read as anti-Hillary RW pundit essays get into DU-at least its a logical discussion

albeit it makes a lot of assertions that can't be proven, like:

With Hillary as Dem nominee the oil, media, Pharma, HMO. Military industrial/Iraq billionaires will give more money to the GOP than if any one else is the nominee (saying "the party's fund raising problems will begin to disappear").

And that two Senate seats will go GOP because of the great candidates that have been recruited (Governor Mike Johanns in Nebraska, and Congresswoman Heather Wilson in New Mexico).

and finally, that Hillary will lose more independent voters than any one else - even given the smear campaign that will hit whomever is the nominee.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. They Will Contribute To Whomever They See Winning

With Hillary as Dem nominee the oil, media, Pharma, HMO. Military industrial/Iraq billionaires will give more money to the GOP than if any one else is the nominee (saying "the party's fund raising problems will begin to disappear").


That's just politics...

[papau]

49. true - we used to give to everyone - more to the leaders, more to the GOP n/t

n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Might As Well Keep It On Thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3636053&mesg_id=3636053

Does anybody else think that when the General comes all the bashing by the Rethugs will actually help Clinton because even though it will energize the Rethuglican base it will also energize the Democratic base, and since there are more Dems than Pugs it will work to Hillary's benefit... Kind of like impeachment...

[Bitwit1234]

18. Boy I think Obama being an ancestral cousin of cheney

made the republicans more energized cause they don't want a democrat related to cheney to win.

[CyberPieHole]

22. The website you quote mocks Al Gore and calls the Democratic Party, "The Failed Party"

That site has an article titled:

"The Nobel Prize Curse" which starts off with:

"Al Gore's Nobel may very well turn out to be the beginning of the end for global warming. How's that, you say? Surely Al and the International Panel on Climate Control, armed as they now are with the great cachet of the Nobel, will sweep away all oil-company-inspired opposition and bring the Green revolution to completion. We'll all be riding unicycles to work and recycling our nail clippings come next Tuesday, and be happy doing it, lest Al, watching from the big house in Nashville, be made unhappy and give orders to have us sent to Prudhoe Bay to feed moss to the caribou."

Another article on that web-site is titled:

"The Failed Party" and it begins with:

"The Democratic Party hasn't just taken over the title of The Stupid Party, as Professor James W. Ceaser characterizes it in his much-admired article of the same name in The Weekly Standard. Professor Ceaser insightfully argues that today's Democratic Party is what it is because of philosophical diffidence readily exploited by the bullying of a "network of techno-thugs," all Leftists."

That article ends with this quote:

"The future of the nation will not be decided by a renewed liberalism, but by a principled, dynamic conservatism."

The site is obviously designed to appeal to conservative Republicans and its objective is contrary to liberal, progressive and Democratic ideals. The site also has blogs that defend the comic Rush Limballs (as well as a ridiculous article which defends Alberto Gonzales and accuses Democrats of "playing political games with national security"). So, basically (to answer your question), the site is a big steamy pile of dog poop: that's "what's wrong with this site".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Welcome To DU

Good work...

[CyberPieHole]

28. Thank you for the kind greeting.

And hello to you.:hi:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. So How Is A Chilean So Tuned Into American Politics?

I don't know anything about Chile...

[CyberPieHole]

44. I'm American by birth.

My mother was born in Chile and I am currently living here checking it out and seeing what life is like down here. So far, I love it. Santiago is a big modern city...not unlike Los Angeles in certain qualities. One thing I did learn is that they hate it when someone from the U.S. refers to themselves as "American". They refer to Americans as "Norte-Americanos". Another thing is that they HATE George Bush. I'm more than happy to inform them that I share their disregard (and lack of respect) for the pResident.

[illinoisprogressive]

27. good article. the media feels their job in nominating Hillary is done and now they pick the gop one

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. How Did I Know You Would Like It?

BTW, I can feel your desperation through the monitor...

DSB

[babylonsister]

32. How did I know you wouldn't?

:party:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. What???????

See Post 26

I was referring to our friend from the "Land Of Licoln"... I'm selective with my outrage...Outrage is like salt... It only works in moderation...

[babylonsister]

34. You are a Clinton fan, and that's okay by me. That's all I meant. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. It Doesn't Bother Me...

I'm a Democrat fan...

And the replies are quite entertaining...

[illinoisprogressive]

31. maybe because both the Bush's and the Clinton's have ruined this country.

[Larynx Oblation]

35. Like An Ice Pick To the Eye!

Well put indeed. We can't handle that quad-decker sandwich.

Bu$h*t, Clinton, Bu$h*t, Clinton=genocide & ruin.

[babylonsister]

48. Welcome to DU, Larynx Oblation!

:toast:

Nice name. :shrug:

[Larynx Oblation]

51. Why Thank You! Babylon Sister...

shake it!:hi:

[Perry Logan]

37. What the heck: "How Hillary started those fires in California."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. That Was The Last Time I Stepped In A Baptist Church

There were bad forest fires in 93 in Cali I believe...And the pastor said it was "remedial judgements from God" for electing Bill Clinton...

[wyldwolf]

41. ah, yes. ANOTHER right wing source.

:eyes:

[babylonsister]

42. We've been waiting for you.

:rofl:

[wyldwolf]

43. well, I'm here

:rofl:

[KoKo]

45. Yes...you always get the "alert."

I don't wanna know where you get it.... :eyes: but the split second notification must be very reassuring ... Wish you'd sell it to our hapless Government. :D

[wyldwolf]

64. there's treatment for paranoia, ya know.

[Cameron27]

46. Hey it's a mistake,

you post enough good stuff not to be hassled by it. :)

[babylonsister]

47. Only 2 more kicks to make me a jerk! nt

[AtomicKitten]

50. 5th K&R (nt)

[babylonsister]

54. Ha! Thanks, friend, I needed that and asked for it!

[AtomicKitten]

55. Source, schmource.

Hillary has united the GOP like all the wedge issues put together.

Cheers.

[JeffR]

56. Then I'm not kicking because you're NOT a jerk!

uh oh, wait...

[babylonsister]

63. Gee, thanks, Jeff. You of all people.

:silly:

[fightindonkey]

57. LMAO. RW Rubbish, From Crybabies On The Right And Obama Supporters Who Know Hillary Will Win!

Tough! Get over it, and don't post crap from a Right wing propaganda site.

[babylonsister]

59. I'm awaiting your input and influence. When might that happen? nt

[BenDavid]

60. One question a liberal needs to ask some-

one on the right. If Rudy is your nominee and you have labeled Democrats as being "baby killers" because of their stand on being "pro choice" how can you support and vote for Rudy who is also pro choice? and second How can this not make you a hypocrite?

I thank you
Ben David

[MethuenProgressive]

65. I call Bull Shit.

Pretty much everybody, except Barack Obama and John Edwards, now thinks Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee.

So, Barack and Johnny don't americanthink so? I americanthink they're smarter than that!
:rofl: